The Armenian Genocide

If there's ten thing Free Republic hates - and there is - one of them is when other cultures kill. But what do you do when condeming another culture (and thus afirming the ascendancy of American culture) interferes with The Long War?

Many go for the usual attack the Dems, this siding for the war in Iraq, and against recognizing genocide:

This is a deliberate, with malice aforesight, move meant to cripple the war in Iraq and force and early withdrawal.

Maybe not a perfect statement of the law, but clearly marine-iac7 wants to charge the Dems with murder...of the war in Iraq.

So does tomnbeverly:

WHY NOW... TREASON..HR 106. if one U.S. soldier dies because of this incursion or fighting between the Kurds and Turkey every memeber of committe that voted Yea must be held on murder charges....

I must admit, I'm not a fan of the DU forums, but they don't advocate killing or jailing members of Congress too often. Though the president...alright, there's crazies on both sides.

A very few choose to assume there was no genocide:

Republicans should have been smart and introduce a resolution that condemned the revisionist history using the definition without the word genocide

But as stated before, Freepres love genocides, since it makes the US's little booboos look trivial, so not many take this point of view.

A lot of posters point out that the genocide was carried out by the Ottoman Empire and that Turkey is under new management now. Indeed, the resolution condemns the Ottoman Empire, not Turkey. This still pisses off Turkey, though. Who is to blame for the? The Dems:

Again, the Democrats believe the present day Turkish government is responsible for the Armenian deaths. Odds are good none of them will ever actually read their resolution ~ that's staff work doncha' know ~ and most of them don't care one way or the other about the Ottoman Empire, the Turks, or the Armenians. Their only purpose is to force the withdrawal of our troops from Iraq and bring on a genocide.

Democrats love Genocide. Real Americans love victory, and self-respect. They reject cowardice and betrayal.

Take it from muawiyah. The Dems say Ottoman Empire, but they mean Turkey. Also, they would make a resolution aplauding the genocide, if it wasn't for the war in iraq. Cause they love genocide. Also, one may spot Real Americans (Now Capitalized!) due to the fact that they are not fans of betrayal. This can be a good test to use on your friends; betray one, and if they are pissed off, they are not Democrats!

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There is a rousing debate regarding whether Turkey is an ally or not.

Today Turkey has good trade relations with Israel

They pretty much always have. Turks and Jews go way back. 1492 is yesterday in comparison.

Counterpoint:

Turkey betrayed America at the start of the war against Saddam, and they should be punished for what they did.

I personally, do not give a darn how much they are insulted about something that happened almost 100 years ago.

I am insulted about what they did to our American soldiers at the start of this war against Saddam!

I assume this has to do with Turkey not allowing us to send troops through them in the inital rampup to the invasion of Iraq back in 2003. Not many dwell on that, considering the help they give us now, but some never forget. Among those, are Kurdish terrorists, apparently.

If the Turks had let the 4th ID move across Turkey. They'd likely not have the problem with left wing Islamo Nut terrorist type Kurds coming across the border. The Turks have not treated the Kurds of Turkey well, historically speaking. But they also fail to make distinctions between Kurdish groups. And there are big differences. The ones giving them problems have gotten Iranian support, and earlier they got support from a certain Socialist country that is not far from Kurdistan and Turkey.

But wait! The Kurds hate the Turkish, and some of them are commies! Maybe that means the Turks are okay!

Yes we do need to worry about commies in Kurdish territory. What part of WORLD...WORKERS do you not get? They are part of the world organization to disrupt freedom, and democracy. They don't want a free Iraq or a democracy in Turkey. The lying MSM has done it's job well I see.

Aaand we're back to the media. The old hate tropes are a place of comfort when one's ideals clash. Indeed, as when any non-religeous debate on Free Republic gets heated, some members are blamed for being Dem plants:

And there are some self-absorbed FReepers who support this resolution at this time and could care less how this affects the Iraq war and our troops on the ground fighting al Qaeda. I am calling those FReepers out as democrats/liberals posing as conservatives. They are no different than Pelosi and her ilk!

That was the actual font. Yeah. And lo, the voice of huge font did recieve replies:

Absolutely well said.

You are going to see alot of moles surfacing over the next 12 mos. How hard would it be to hide since 2000 or 2004 and come out now as a phony conservative.

Pray for W and Our Troops

I also blame the democrats for people who I disagree with on a conservative web forum! It is the only explanation for philosophical divergance!

In the end, though, Freepers come down against the Democrats by reflex, and this tilts the debate.

Thus, the danger of America becoming Islamic is brought up:

What the Leftists haven’t figured out, is that it is THEIR base who will be most impacted by Sharia law..
The pious Islamists kill perverts, adulterers and blasphemers —— and terribly punish drinkers, gamblers, thieves, whores, drug users and the “immodest”, etc........

This would play HAVOC with the Liberal “Progressive” Leftists of the Democrat base.

DAMN!
The more I think about that, the better it begins to sound.... I’ll have to buy me a Koran and study up!

Also, we must not forget Vietnam!

The Turkish Parliament should issue a resolution condemning US cutoff of funds to its ally in South Vietnam and the resulting murder of hundreds of thousands. They should mention Ted Kennedy’s willingness to feed Vietnamese children to the sharks in the South China Sea.

Perhaps that should be suggested to Turkey from someone on this board.

cumhurbaskanligi@tccb.gov.tr E-mail to the president of Turkey. I have a draft saved.