Tuesday, December 4, 2012

SCIENCE!

DrTeethMD noted this thread had potential.

Free Republic is mostly secular and political in it's crazy. But you can't be as socially regressive as Free Republic is without attracting some pretty strong theocratic fundamentalists.

Still, watching fundamentalists with a shaky grasp of science attempt to explain why this science thing sucks is hilarious. Thus, though there are as many detractors as proponents, I present to you Freeper Fundie Science Flailing:

uncommonsense is a scientist, so he knows evolutions (sic) has no scientific method in it!
The point of this article, and one I always try to make being a scientist, is that evolution is NOT science. It's a theory. The idiots I debate ascribe science to evolution because creationism "is based on faith" therefore evolutions is science.

Science is based on the scientific method and evolution does not rely on science as such.
See, ya need experiments for science! Thus, llso not science: sociology, economics, astrophysics, and even theoretical physics!

metmom knows evidence never proved nothing:
Evolution isn’t science.

The whole theory is based on forensic evidence and extrapolation.
metmom follows up with some ARGuments:

That something happened by physical laws ( which I and many others think were designed by GOD) is useful.

Why? Is it because that you ASSume that physical laws don't and haven't changed and thereby feel justified in your ASSumptions?
What hard scientific proof do you have that all the physical laws have always operated as we observe them to do now?

Assuming it happened by miraculous intervention is useless and inapplicable to anything else.

Then how do you explain miracles, those events which happen which break the physical laws that govern the universe?

I am sorry that you think that science is anti God. That attitude says a lot more about your limitations than it does about the limits of science.

No, that's not true at all. I don't think that SCIENCE is anti God, but only that some scientists like you are. 
Fuck, I think she just disproved electricity.

Morpheus2009 explains that carbon dating is likely bullshit. Also, Titan AE was unrealistic.
half-life is a projection, based on an exponential evaluation over a smaller time interval. Logarithms. Either way, the creation of the Earth is a good explanation, because only in science fiction, namely Titan A.E., could we figure out how to experimentally create the Whole Planet Earth and all life on it.
RushIsMyTeddyBear explains that Hitler liked Darwin, so therefore Darwin is evil. As is his Father in Law.
It has been an theory used, as an excuse, to kill other human beings for years.

My FIL, of all people, fought in Britain in WW2 against the Nazis. We were having a drink at the pub and some conversation. He thought that the disabled needed to be euthanized at birth. My mouth almost flew open. I said to him....”Hitler thought the same thing.” He clammed up.
ClearCase_guy seems to think natural selection is being constantly adjusted, which is Most Unscientific.
One of my issues with evolution is that the theory is always in need of adjustment. Now, sure, that's pretty much what science is. As new information comes to light, the scientific thinking is made more complete and more correct. I get that. But evolution seems to get things wrong all the time. It's constantly being changed, and we don't really know that any part of it is every really correct.

As another poster said, evolution is just speculation -- and then we find out that the speculation is certainly wrong, so they make adjustments and speculate in a different way -- until they find out that that was wrong too.

I cannot imagine any circumstance that would make these guys say "You know, maybe this evolution thing really is crap" -- they have too much invested in the theory, so they will keep admitting that it is wrong, that the new evidence invalidates part of the old thinking, but they will hold on to the core of the speculation. No matter what.

Evolution isn't science. It's a religion.
 editor-surveyor thinks Obama disproves science.
If a terrorist can be president, evolution can be science; its all in how you cover your eyes.
I personally spit in the face of them liberals who unthinkingly believe in gravity. Why keep changing that theory, "Einstein?"

BipolarBob lays out why you can't have both life and the Big Bang:
The Big Bang ignited the whole universe a million degrees and I would think that would pretty much sterilize any material that thought about springing into life right there. With a sterile universe where can life come from except . . GOD?

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  1. "I cannot imagine any circumstance that would make these guys say "You know, maybe this evolution thing really is crap" -- they have too much invested in the theory [...] Evolution isn't science. It's a religion."

    Projection, how does it work?

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  2. So I found two sane Freepers on this Obamacare thread:
    link

    Check out M Dodge Thomas and Mr Know It All. Islands of pragmatism in a sea of batshit!

    It brightened my day a bit.

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    1. Aargh, that link needs a final "s".

      http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2965439/posts

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