The senior was also a girl, making this a lesbian high school thing. Also, she is pretty. It's going viral. Freepers are going crazy. A few are noting this is silly, but many are either harping that 'the law's the law,' or yelling at the supporters for loving pedophiles.
The whole thread is kind of a crapfest of a few longstanding Frepeers raging at some bemused new Freepers. Here are some highlights:
BykrBayb posits that Romeo raped Juliette:
Do you think all rape victims should continue to be raped, to save them the embarrassment of the abuser facing charges? Or is there something special about this Romea and Juliet love story that makes you think there’s more harm in ending it than endorsing it?I do not envy anyone dating Politicalmom's daughter.
Wow. So FR is now host to a nest of child molester apologists. I am totally disgusted.Politicalmom knows parents rule all.
If anyone ever TOUCHES one of my underaged daughters, I will harass him to the day he dies. I will picket his college, I will picket his workplace, I will picket his wedding. He will WISH I’d just shot him.
This rapist KNEW the parents were against it. She had NO BUSINESS committing homosexual rape on a younger girl. YOU should be ashamed at what you are defending!!Houmatt wants life in prison:
I support her being treated like any other sex offender (rapist or child molester), where in a perfect world means life without parole.Houmatt explains that Jesus was all about the age of consent being a bright line.
I don't care to hear about how this girl's life could be destroyed. She could have chosen to keep her hands off of a 15-year-old girl for three years until she turned 18, the legal of age of consent in Florida. But she didn't, and that's not my problem.
Jesus Christ Himself said it is better to put a millstone around your neck and toss yourself into the sea than harm a child. And that is what this 15-year-old is.A brief manc digression!
Further, for you to find fault in the girl's parents to do what was legally viable to protect their daughter instead of giving her carte blanche says much more about you than the parents. A parent wants to protect their child, not toss them to the wolves. That's why we are having the problems we are with today's kids in the first place: We don't discipline. We don't protect.
WOW, so she has a daughter who is a child molester and instead of looking at herself and her daughter she blames the other parents.I think lesbians confuse him.
It reminds me of a few weeks ago when a young girl hit me in the chest with her bag she was swinging about. I looked at the young girl and carried on. Her mother tapped me on the shoulder and said :you do know that is was an accident right?
I replied yes but I never heard her say sorry nor you.
The look on this woman was as if she had her house and car stolen and told no more welfare for her life
arthurus speculates groundlessly:
Perhaps the 15 year old was not in an entirely voluntary situation and eventually wanted out.Oy. little jeremiah shows up with a fusillade of fallacies:
I might as well weigh in here. Two things: Age of consent laws exist for a reason, a very good reason. What is that reason? To protect children from being sexually exploited by those older than them. It's realy simple. Note that the younger girl is "now 15", so the older mentally ill sex pervert started molesting her when she was only 14. So what is the age when it is not okay to seduce/molest children? 12? 13? Of course, in previous generations often couples married young, so there are many women who married in their early teens - many grandparents of people on FR, or their parents, were married young. BUT - there is a world (or perhaps several universes) of difference between a couple marrying young and a mentally ill sex pervert seducing a younger girl, or any person taking advantage of a younger child sexually.little jeremiah knows every high school relationship has a pedophile and a victim:
The homosexual aspect of it only makes it more disgusting. And it is also noteworthy that most homosexuals are introduced to the practice of same sex sodomy while very young. Oh, and one more point. People often make comments about when they were in high school all the boys and girls were having sex like dogs and bitches in heat so it's natural and normal and so many of them would be in jail so such laws are bad. Well, I've got news for such people. It's only since the progressive/communist influence of trying to destroy all morality and influence of religion that young people engaged in illicit sex wholesale. Or were encouragd to. Previously, young people were expected to save sex for marriage, and guess what! Most of them did. Sorry, but that's the truth.
I believe all molestation and NON-CONSENSUAL TOUCH a crime WHATEVER THE AGE.little jeremiah runs to Jim Robinson to get the Freeper who thought consent mattered zotted. She fails.
Hmm, many child molesters claim that their victims like the sex, or even "ask for it". Molestation includes grooming, befriend, engendering trust, and then often the use of porn/drugs/alchol, and voila! It's consensual.
EDIT - she succeeded, just quite a bit later and well after the thread had died.
Jim - this person is using classic pedophile talking points. THe parents are the villains, the 14 year old is perfectly capbable of consenting to an older homosexual’s advances, and also this person will not ansewr when “young” is “too young”.
Honestly, I think statutory rape is statutory rape. There wouldn't be a media circus and national outrage if the older girl had been a man instead.
ReplyDeleteThat's just my perspective as a 17-year-old though, most people including me were complete idiots at 15.
I mean, I would not want my freshman little sister dating someone 17 or 18 years old.
DeleteI think there would still be outrage if the parents of a 15 year old girl disapproved of a 17 year old boy she was dating, so instead of forbidding her to see him, they waited until his 18th birthday and had him arrested. That's kind of a dick move on the parents' part.
DeleteSadly, the Freepers' reactions here actually aren't too far removed from what you'd read on a relatively liberal site like HuffPost. Teenage sex, especially when there's even the smallest age difference between the participants, is an issue that brings out the inner Neanderthal in a lot of people regardless of their politics.
ReplyDeleteShe didn't fail. GSD Lover got the zot.
ReplyDeleteallmendream got the zot also in that thread.
DeleteThis whole thing is so stupid. 3/4 of the guys in my senior HS class were dating freshman, sophmore and junior gals because the decent, good looking senior gals were dating fresh and sophmore COLLEGE guys-who they met in HS...
ReplyDeleteThe parents of the 15 year old should have just gone to the 18 year old parents and told her to back off-that is what we did back in my day (late 1970's).
Under todays rules 3/4 of the guys in my class would no be labled sexual predators..
Such BS.. Frepers are in fighting mode because this has to do with FAGGOTRY,
Most of the freeper women were sucking cock in high school.
It's ironic how over the last couple of decades the West has become vastly more liberal about sex... except when it comes to teens, where the trend has instead been insanely punitive. Ages of consent have risen all over the democratic world, and punishments for underage sex have become downright barbaric, with high school kids getting registered for life as "sex offenders" for fooling around with other high school kids. Even Japan with its libertine reputation has been locking up sexually active teens with gusto in recent years. I suppose it's partly backlash against the changes the Internet has brought to young people's social lives (similar to the changes the automobile brought in the 1920s, which also saw the passage of some brutal sex laws) but I think there's more to it. Now that it's no longer socially acceptable to openly hate most sexual minorities (except of course on sites like FR) I think all that hatred lacking an outlet has been displaced onto "pedophiles"--a category which has been absurdly broadened to include high school seniors dating underclassmen.
DeletePeople harping on "The Law" tend to ignore the fact that consent laws vary in basically arbitrary ways and that they also tend to be interpreted WAY more harshly for gay kids than straight ones (despite gay kids usually having WAY fewer options for dating peers). Florida law, I believe, allows 23-year-olds to have sex with 16-year-olds. It's not clear at all to me why that's OK but 18 and 15 isn't even if it's consensual.
ReplyDeleteI mean, I would not want my freshman little sister dating someone 17 or 18 years old.
You might not, but it happens all the time, and as long as it's consensual, criminalizing it seems kinda stupid and cruel. Which is what sucks about consent laws as currently enforced; instead of protecting kids, they too often provide a way for relatives to lash out vengefully at relationships that make them uncomfortable. Is there any who reads this blog who can't imagine a couple of teens having a healthier, saner and more responsible approach to sex than the average adult FReeper? I don't think I'm alone in finding America's fixation on the sex life of teens creepy and not entirely convincing as a moral stance.
Predators need to be stopped, obviously. But we ought to be able to do that without pathologizing teen sex. And although it really depends on the people involved, I'd generally rather see my 15-year-old sister with an 18-year-old than with another 15-year-old, who I think would statistically be less likely to use condoms and to behave responsibly.
Incidentally, as Wikipedia says, "in 1880, the age of consent was 10 in most states but ranged from 7 in Delaware to 12 across nine states and the District of Columbia." As usual, the FReepers' idealized American past doesn't withstand much scrutiny.
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ReplyDeleteTwo things, (1) I love how all these folks presume that the two girls were engaging in full blown sex at 18 and 15 which leads us to point (2) pics, or it didn't happen.
I'll be in my bunk.
"Jesus Christ Himself said it is better to put a millstone around your neck and toss yourself into the sea than harm a child." By Houmatt
ReplyDeleteYet another Freeper misunderstanding the bible. Matthew 18:6 says "But who so shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea." God and Jesus are just circlejerking each other, the passage isn't about protecting children it's about protecting believers.
*Also complete dick move by the parents. The younger girl is going to have some serious psychological scarring. It's probably pretty hard being gay in HS, but to have your parents drag it out into public must be totally humiliating for a 15 year old. I hope she finishes HS before running away.
ReplyDeleteInteresting to see Houmatt back active. He was super active on FR until the old clown posse shamed him away when his usenet archives were exposed.
ReplyDeleteHoumatt, in his non-freep life, is a crossdresser who likes to call himself Shelley, and has had gay experiences. That's unfortunately sort of non-shocking behavior these days amongst the loudest of the holier-than-thou chest beaters.
Lesbian Strawmen Rapists is the name of my L7 cover band.
ReplyDeleteYou neglect to mention that the Freepers who were defending the girl got their accounts banned and are now ex-Freepers because they defended her.
ReplyDeleteYou concerns aren't baseless - I totally cherry pick the craziest posts. But here the people I quoted seemed to be the old core of Free Republic. They made up most of the comments, and as Anon below pointed out banned people who disagreed with them.
ReplyDeleteThat's not extremists - that's the leadership!
But I'm glad you agree they were being dumb at least.