The Hangover

Thanks to an Anonymous little birdie for the thread.

Even as most Freepers continue their tantrum, some few are groping towards sanity. A lot of encouraging crow eating re: Nate Silver. A lot of "FRAUD" based ankle-biting, too:

BlueStateRightist is doing some soul-searching

With regard to Nate Silver: Don’t blame the messenger. I blame myself for hanging high hope on the words of Dick Morris and Michael Barone. Even the vaunted Scott Rasmussen, who missed by a couple critical percentage points here and there, gave me some misguided optimism.

ScottinVA explains that his previous certitude was actually hope:

He was dead-on right. Amazingly.

I really thought turnout would overcome his predictions, but... nope.

Longbow1969 explains about episystemic closure:

the "majority" never predicted Obama to win. The majority on some conservative sites and Fox News maybe, but in the greater media universe the vast majority correctly picked Obama to win a narrow election. This includes seasoned election analysts like Cook, Sabato, Rothernberg, etc, - all thought Obama would win. Only the conservative echo chamber that was foolishly claiming all the polls were skewed thought otherwise.

Strategerist really lets his fellow Freepers have it:

I harbored the hope there was some sort of systemic bias in the state polls, or there would be a Bradley effect - though I thought the whole “Unskewed Polls” business was nonsense all along. I actually attacked Silver a bit on some other boards, which I regret.

The Unskewed Polls page will end up one of the greatest embarrassments to the Right there ever has been.

Beyond all the other groups that Republicans have to appeal to somehow in the future (Women, Hispanics, etc.) there’s another one - the highly educated. Rabid hatred of scientific methods in attacks on polling, etc. doesn’t help (to say nothing of creationism, and other issues.)

palmer sets a fellow Freeper straight about the whole fraud hypothesis:

1. Romney/Ryan got less votes this year than McCain/Palin did in 2008.
2. Romney/Ryan won in every state that had voter ID laws.

Is this reasonable, or is something else at play?

They haven't finished counting.

G Larry, though, is still stuck on fraud:

They keep citing demographic vote turnout that simply doesn’t reflect observable reality.

College campuses around the country had little or no activity, yet turnout was reported above 2008 levels.

That theme was repeated across many demographics.

For that reason I continue to believe massive, organized vote fraud was a major factor in this election.

AmericaUnited knows Silver was getting fed data, so he's not the genius, some other guy no one knows about it!!

He’s a damn cheat. Almost certainly he got the Zero internal polls again.

Uncle Chip thinks Silver is awesome at modeling voter fraud:

He was accurate because he factored in the vote fraud endemic in the early voting, the bloated registrations, the Democrat machines across the country, and the fecklessness of the GOP to do anything about it.