Tuesday, May 19, 2015

The TX biker gang fight

Some biker gangs act like Freepers assume all black people do, and have a shootout in a local restaurant in Texas. Nine are dead.

Turns out the bikers were almost all white guys. Before this can be confirmed, Freepers rush to find the tiniest clues that there are minorities involved. The urgency to have figured out their own narrative before the press does some actual reporting that contradicts it is palpable.

re_nortex makes an amazing showing here, with blizzards of fallacies akin to Oliviaforever back in the day.

NormsRevenge jumps straight to Muslims:
A recruitment event..

Run by who?

ISIL? Uhhh. ISIS.
re_nortex's amazing performance begins:
Isn't oh-so surprising that the leftist lamestream media isn't mentioning the race or the religion involved in this murder spree. Thankfully some good guys with guns were nearby to put an end to it before the kill count went into the double digits.
CivilWarBrewing really wants this incident to speak to his racism.
Are these primarily white gangs? Are any one of these gangs heavily Hispanic versus the other gangs??? I can see the phony ‘diversity harmony’ cr*p coming to a head soon, especially with illegals overrunning us.. Is race in play here, or is this just old rivaries? Anyone know?
mylife isn't buying that Texans can be bad:
I just find the flavor of the article to be off.
Slandering Texans an bikers.

No facts
mylife has come up with a theory
I’m gonna go about on a limb and guess this gang was not from Tx

Here in Tx we do the ride and the meet and greet we do not shoot the place up.
re_nortex is the best:
I suspect our perps where from south of the border and the dispute was with brothers that where also from south of the border.

That's an excellent application of Occam's Razor, FRiend! Thanks for cutting to the chase and exposing liberal lies.
re_nortex also hits the Freeper trope that whenever race/religion/party isn't mentioned, it's cool to assume whatever you want.
Not only was the race and religion covered up by the lying television station and newspapers, they also failed to mention if those involved were illegal Mexicans. It's well known that real Texans don't wantonly kill as was the case here.

Fortunately an authentic armed Texan was close at hand to put a stop to it. God has Blessed Texas yet again!
stylin_geek is another Freeper to take refuge in vague paranoia:
SWAT opened fire and killed a few people who may have just been getting on their bikes to get away from the gunfire.

This may have very well been exactly what the paper is saying it is.

However, there are too many things going on in this country for me to be able to take anything at face value any more.
katana knows white crimes are organized, unlike Mexicans:
The outlaw ones are a bit like the Mafia. Treat them with respect and stay out of their business and they’ll generally do the same for you. Mexican “clubs” excepted, and my guess is that’s probably what we’ve got here. It would explain why the reporter refrained from naming the clubs involved. Locals would know who’s who and did what and why.
re_nortex continues:
The picture in the post is from the New York Daily News, a northeastern far-left newspaper. The leftist media has been known to doctor photographs to push hussien's anti-American liberal agenda. It's best to wait until a reliable, Conservative Texas source provides a real photograph.
BeadCounter suddenly finds it important to figure out the demographics of various biker gangs:
“Mongols formed because the Hell’s Angels mainly wanted white members. Mongols so have some of your minority types.”

Correction: Vagos seems to have been the gang. Something to research.
defconw is already halfway to trutherism:
Where is the blood? Where are the walking wounded? The pictures all seem staged to me. Just a bunch of guys sitting around looking at their phones? Seems very odd.
fwdude knows to trust no one whose story doesn't agree with what you want it to:
Just I don't trust anyone anymore. I must have seen it in person with my own two eyes.

I fully understand. Deceit rules the day.
re_nortex is getting cocky, but it's awesome:
You might want to learn what your taking about before you try and “fix” something.

So you're implying that this rogue gang of murderers is comprised of God-fearing, pro-life, pro-gun, anti-sodomy Conservatives. If that's true, then why is there not a mass movement by the "Banditos" to support Ted Cruz for President?

Monday, May 18, 2015

Monday Potpourri

Slow week, so Freepers mount up the anti-Islam hate.

That Amtrak crash sets JLAGRAYFOX off on government quality:
The chairman of Amtrak appears, looks and sounds like he is braindead!!! Another Obamabot appointee!!! Is the train engineer being portrayed as another “Gentle Giant” like Obama’s “son”, the would be cop killer, Michael Brown???

The only thing and organization the USA federal government can run effectively is the USA Military!!! They fail at everything else!!! The powers that be up to Obama should be giving the third degree to this, at a minimum, careless train engineer. Instead they are coddling him like he was a saint!!! He must have something really good on Obama & Company!!!
DesertRhino make up an epidemic of pollster jihadis:
Tricking pollsters is always fun, and can only make conservatives work harder. But England has gone Orwell. It really could be dangerous to your job or expose you to prosecution to say the wrong thing to some pollster. Also remember that this is the UK, and the pollster could be a moslem.

The wrong truthful answer on the most crucial topics in the election could quite literally get you murdered.
elcid1970's post goes on, but I like how Buddhism and Hinduism get only 'courtesy.'
Islam does not deserve the respect accorded to Judaism or Christianity, nor the courtesy accorded to Buddhism or Hinduism.
re_nortex:
Go Ted go! Crush islam! Restore America’s Biblical foundation!
DesertRhino knows tough love will cure autism:
Howzabout tell your little hellion, “NO, The world won’t always adjust to make you happy. You better learn that soon or you’ll get your happy little ass kicked by someone when you pull this on the wrong person.”

It coulda been a teachable moment. That concept that nobody else cares about making the world simply perfect for them. If the “autist” really, seriously, literally cannot stop from scratching people when they cannot have a hot meal, the person should be institutionalized.
Don't ask how boycott found a picture of some black drag:
If barack had a son, he'd probably look more like one of these guys ........ some_text He would likely be a tranny muzzie.
MeshugeMikey - homegrown ghetto jihad:
s a black thing...we cant understand..according to Obie's 3rd Cousin...Rrichard Pryor
you’ll get your happy little ass kicked by someone when you pull this on the wrong person.”

I understand that the Regimes quite pleased that things are continuing to cannonball toward thier ultimate goal...of homegrown ghetto jihad!
Gen.Blather calls for deep analysis of a picture of Obama and Michelle looking serious:
I see the expression they’re wearing as unattractive. Since I’m certain that wasn’t the intent I’m wondering why I see it so. Even if I try to imagine they aren’t communists out to destroy America I still see the looks on their faces as (threatening? Insolent?) Joseph Stalin could look very (I hesitate to say attractive as that isn’t quite the right word.) You get no sense of the monster in him. Any thoughts?
al baby wonders when the genocide will at last begin:
I wonder when good old boys will mount up say lets roll and go and take it to them at Mosques, CAIR offices, 711’s cab companies and the like It passed time
cherokee1 strains to make the VE day celebration anti-Obama.
Speaking of peeing you might notice that the Grand Kenyan got completely out of town for the occasion. As far as he could get. He’s hiding out in Oregon. I imagine he just couldn’t say anything positive about US winning WW II.
jimbo123 wants to deport all non-Freepers:
Deport Jeb Bush. Deport Columba Bush. Deport George P. Bush. Back to Mexico for all of them.
A CA Guy imagines liberals jacking it to Hillary:
Do you suppose there are liberals looking somewhere at a picture of Hillary while doing nasty things to themselves believing the end is near?

If so, in a way, hasn’t the end of the world really come?
Moonman62 wishes he could say nigger:
Eventually teen will become a banned word like niggard.
arthurus sees Muslims behind Obama and Hillary:
Eldie then. Huma now. And Huma represents a major jihadist penetration of the State Department and prospectively of the Presidency. Of course we have an ongoing penetration of the White House by the Jihad. It in fact rules the nation.
txhurl heard the Amtrak engineer was gay. This explains everything!
I think PA Gay Mafia got him the job, and he scared the staff (and likely passengers) for a while now. Neurotic, drugged up, there are likely many people lined up to testify against him.

ER had to take a blood sample.. is why he was lawyered up immediately. He is likely deeply in the gay power structure in PA.
re: the Amtrak engineer's gayness. re_nortex is a magnificent bastard:
Sodomites have a death wish as clearly evidenced by the way they live. Since they brazenly reject God, they have no sense of morality. Thus a sodomite thinks nothing of murdering others while on a suicide mission.
CGASMIA68 wonders if maybe it was blacks that crashed that train:
Amish have been acting up in the subways and seeing how trains go through so much of amish turf it makes sense.....
fireman15 hates how Obama's past is so obviously fake:
These pictures are only the tip of the iceberg. Similar discrepancies and worse are found in their wedding pictures and also pictures of their kids. Everything about Obama is manufactured and most of it looks like it was done by complete amateurs yet no one in the mainstream media wants to challenge any of it.
jsanders2001 has another word for vaccinations:
Operation Beast Mark in progress. Get the kids used to being forced o do whatever the government tells them to and they will accept the tracking / citizen tracking vaccine or tattoo without question later as will their children...

Friday, May 15, 2015

Spotlight Friday: Diana in Wisconsin


This lady has actual talent. Seriously - she's really good at typing out traditionally nonverbal emotional cues that really evoke what she's feeling. She's whose anxiety about our national debt often gives way to bitterness and wine.

Her profile makes her seem totally normal - business owner, dog, fiance, grown son. But she has hints that her Freepishness intrudes on her real life.


Her reaction to the Senate's confirmation of Loretta Lynch:
Well, I guess I’ll be sitting out his next election. Jerk! Time for Feingold to swoop back in. Aarrggghhh!
Grrrrr!
@#$%^&*! Uni-Party! Grrrrr!
Not a fan of Neil deGrasse Tyson
Nope. I’ll borrow the original from the Library before I’ll watch that POS’s intro. And seriously, I won’t even do THAT because it’s effing PBS!

His intro will be something along the lines of, “I...Um...Know you...Um...think the Universe revolves...Um...around the Sun and all, but...Um...it REALLY revolves around ME!”

Bite me. And Dr. deGrasse (Tyson) can can kiss my assy...
Naturally, she loves Scott Walker:
“...the Left never stops. They will not stop, they will not back down...”

And hopefully with Governor Walker on the national scene, OUR SIDE will FINALLY do the same!

I am SO ready for heads on pikes!

Divisive? To the extent we need to be! Governor Walker did NOT get elected time after time without the help of fed-up Independents and ‘Rats, alike!

You want change? How about change for the BETTER for a change?
But she wants to move away from this liberal state:
When’s the last time I mentioned that I cannot WAIT to get OUT of this effed up (Dane) County?

Oh, that would be maybe ten minutes ago, LOL!
Her war against her liberal employees at the Garden Center:
Why is everyone so AFRAID of being a Conservative? My employees are 99.999% LibTards; and these are ‘Cream of The Crop’ LibTards that actually give a chit about our company as a whole and show up for work on time - WITHOUT a Union! Imagine that; a LibTard who UNDERSTANDS who signs their paycheck!

And why do I hire them? Well, for starters, I’m still STUCK with some of them from previous management, but THIS is where I live and this is WHAT I have to work with. I WILL win this battle, ONE PERSON AT A TIME. I WILL convert these idiots...to my dying breath.

Don’t bet against me. And you can thank me later for saving Our Republic. It’s a dirty job, but SOMEONE has to do it! :)
A study that church attendance is down:
a. This ‘study/poll’ is from PEW and Yahoo. *Rolleyes*

b. Many of us have left our CHURCH due to the acceptance of gays and all the other cr@p masquerading as ‘The Word’ these days, but we haven’t left God. Huge difference. HUGE.

c. I call B.S. - It’s Agenda FIRST with these dopey leftist ‘fantasies.’

d. I ain’t scared. I’m right with God. :)
Sluts asking for black rape:
Yep. And a lot of available, willing ‘victims’ wanting to hang out with ‘stars.’ They didn’t KNOW who he was? they just WILLINGLY went on a ‘date’ with some random black dude? I think not. ALL of his ‘victims’ were In The Biz, in some manner, or dating or related to those in The Biz.

As a woman, I hate to be this way, but other women make some really STUPID and life-altering choices. I mean, I’ve had my share of wrong choices, but if you’re hangin’ with The Big Dogs, you’d better prepare yourself to be bitten.

My advice? Stay on the porch, LOL!
Doesn't want a women President:
I don’t want a woman for president either. I want a strong, honorable, God-fearing man in that office.

I’m with you, Sistah!
But she takes umbrage at Freepers' anti-women in the military:
As an Army vet, I agree. It all went downhill when they let us women into the military. *Rolleyes*

I mean, why did we need to get so uppity and actually JOIN? Why didn’t we know our place on the battlefield as did Oh, say, Molly Pitcher, Florence Nightingale, Gabrielle Petit, Elsie Inglis, Maria Bochkareva, Elsie Ott, Susan Travers, Lyudmila Pavlichenko or any modern day female Israeli?

Learn your history. We women have been fighting for freedom right beside our men the world over since the first shot was fired, but, by all means, make sure our collective contributions are ignored due to male ego, LOL!
Wifeley duties.
In reality, I would LOVE to have a ‘wife.’

Of course, just to have her do all of the household chores *I* still have to do as a Raging Heterosexual Woman in 2015.

Oops! Is that sexist? Well...too bad! :)
Manly husband
I’m buying Beau a Smoker for his birthday. With all the wild game he harvests (bear, deer, squirrel, rabbit and the occasional cow he hits with the truck, LOL!) we’ll have some awesome jerky in the future!
She's rather well off:
As for me and my house, we’re doing well. Always have, always will, I guess.

However, we WORK at it and we do the logical and important things that NEED to be done to ensure our security...living BELOW our means, working OT when available, keeping on budget, (heck, just HAVING a budget is miles ahead of the other dopes out there), paying down farm debt as a priority, diversity in investing, etc.

I have said, many, many times - the ONLY reason Socialists haven’t been able to totally take over America is that we’re so dang RICH. It’s going to take a long time to run out of, ‘other people’s money.’ Not saying they won’t keep trying, though! :)
Not a fan of being in public:
I go to a ‘mall’ once a year - and only because my girlfriends DRAG me there with the promise of wine with lunch, LOL!

Thank Gawd for internet shopping. My co-workers are MERCILESS at teasing me about packages that show up all week long, but it’s a win/win as far as I’m concerned.

It’s convenient and it keeps me from being shot, at the very least! :)
But her paranoid partisanship has made her more selfish:
I’m 30 years out, unless I am somehow disabled before I’m in my 80’s when we start to fall apart. I am saving like the devil and doing all I can to not take a dime from Mother Government, who, it appears, can kill me at her leisure!

B@stards!

You know, I used to be a nice, caring person. I CARED about my fellow man. But we are all on our own from here on out. I don’t see things EVER improving, even if we have a second coming of Ronaldus Magnus.

Life as we know it in America is over. We’re ALL Socialists now.
She also hates the poors in Wisconsin:
Mandatory $7.25 here in, ‘The People’s Republik of Madistan.’ Most entry level people aren’t even worth THAT around here.
Loathing Obama's racism:
Funny how 0bama’s ‘white half’ didn’t side with that white woman who was nearly beaten to death by a black thug a few weeks back!

How I loathe that POS. Completely and totally. Wish I could feel SORRY for him for being such an inept leader, a MANUFACTURED Manchurian Candidate, but I simply no longer care. I’m just hunkerin’ down, ridin’ the storm out.
More Loathing:
The whole WORLD is on fire...by design.

How I LOATHE these people!
Hillary hates her Jewish grandson:
What about that ‘@#$%^&*! Jew’ Grandson of hers?

THAT must stick in her decomposing craw, LOL!
That mother who hit her son in the Baltimore riots? False flag:
“I’m a no-tolerant mother.”

Who is SINGLE with SIX KIDS! All with the same Baby Daddy? Highly doubtful.

This is probably the first and ONLY time she cracked down on any of her illegitimate b*stards...and it just happened to get caught on tape? She was dressed to the nines, as well.

I ain’t buying what she’s sellin’ with her 15 Minutes of Fame. Nope.
She hates social security:
Just for giggles, throw in everyone over the age of 62, sucking off the Taxpayer Teat via Social Security.

That leaves you, me and that minimum wage barista at Starbucks supporting them all!

Ain’t Life Grand? *SPIT*
Children: either socialists or being molested!
These days, children are either ‘pets’ being groomed for a homosexual lifestyle, or they belong to The State to become good little Socialist Parrot Drones.

And in some extra special ‘families’ they are both!

What a world.
Foreign babies:
Foreign babies are a Candy Shop to these pervs! If I had the means, I’d adopt them ALL to keep them from harm.

As it stands, all I can do is pray for a direct lightening strike.
*DRINK*
Having 0bama as _Resident has certainly inflamed my LIVER over these past 7 years!

“Unexpected!”

*DRINK* ;)

Thursday, May 14, 2015

And Now This Word from Outer Space

Birth of a Freeper edition:
This is really hard for me to read, because I was a kid under the advent of this system. My mom discovered Kinsey in 1956. By 1960 my parents divorced over infidelity. The child custody battle lasted nine years and consumed two California houses worth of capital. The State broke up my brother and me, dividing us between the two parents. By the time I was 16, we had moved 11 times. In the end, my dad, a municipal bond financing consultant of some import, was a broken human being, divorced three times. Mom made out like a champ, especially after her second divorce, owning her own home and traveling the world on a teacher's pension until she died a few years later. The rest of the family is still a wreck, now 55 years and running.

I left dad's home at 17, penniless and on the streets of Oakland, CA. I count myself lucky, as could easily have wound up dead. I swore then that this would never happen to me. I spent the first ten years of my adulthood grappling with it all. When I finally married at the age of 35, I was extremely careful. Our two kids grew up in the same house they can call "home." The one governing principle of their rearing was 'whatever the leftists think is right, revert to the opposite.' Both girls are now in graduate school. Yet it still isn't over.

There is a reason the Torah specified death for adultery: The effects go on for generations. I am convinced that raising a child in an environment of sexual depravity produces heritable epigenetic traits, effectively they are irreversible without an immense act of will. The consequences all around us, and they will be very difficult if not impossible to reverse.

Having been born into the idyllic California of the 1950s, we never knew the blessings that lifestyle had offered, much less understood the consequences of blowing them off. Conservatives never fully comprehended the stakes in the Culture War; else they would have fought like their lives depended upon victory and nothing less, because they do. The left wants us dead, because we are all that stands between them and total power to please themselves to no end, and to hell with any and every body else. That's what it will be all right.
Reading sexuality studies makes you into a cheating gold-digger who should be killed lest they change their children's DNA brought to you by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by government regulation.)

Boycotting Arabs Muslims.

Via ay-nony-nony.

A Freeper named Din Maker takes Freeper's broad-brush hatred of all Muslims to it's logical conclusion - why aren't Freepers out protesting and boycotting all Muslims, instead of just complaining about them?

Hilariously, he calls them Arabs, thus making it an issue or pure racism, rather than just prejudice and bigotry.

Mostly, it's re_nortex flying amazingly close to the sun and not getting burned, and Din Maker maybe being pathetically serious.

MeshugeMikey tells a story:
Back in the fall of 2001....I stopped frequenting a small local market owned by an Iranian.

He had told me that America Had it Coming....re the attacks on the 11th of September.
re_nortex one-ups him with an amazing tale of bigotry:
I've run completely out of what little tolerance I may have in the reservoir for islam and its satanic adherents. As a case in point, an otherwise outgoing and quite pleasant fellow who owns a convenience store that I frequent and I developed a relatively friendly relationship over the past several years. I always thought he was of Indian decent judging by his accent and complexion.

Just a couple of days when were amicably chatting about our milder than usual weather and the Dallas Cowboys defensive squad's woes, I finally asked about his background. He revealed that he was from Pakistan but lived here in Texas for the past thirty years.

I then bluntly asked if he was a mooselimb. When he replied affirmatively, I literally threw my money for the purchase at him and loudly proclaimed that I would never come to his store again. There's no doubt in my mind that he was practicing taqiyya all of those years. I have no use for him or any other member of that pernicious death cult.

I want them gone! All of them! Every single muzzie! No exceptions! Period.
Is doc1019 aware his revenge sounds super gay?
Considering that Obama wants this country to be overrun by ragheads and his desire is for the US to be under Sharia... Obama is going to do little to stop this and that is his job.

As for boycotting Arab owned business ... what business?

As for your last statement ... I see them all the time (the females in their tents (I guess what I’m seeing are female)) in our local mall accompanied my a male.

My general response is to giggle and look the male directly in the eye while doing do.
re_nortex then one-ups himself:
When I'm in the mall and I see a muzzie couple, I make a point to stand right in their way and block them. I look them right in the eye and hiss, "Get out of my country!" in my best Clint Eastwood voice. While I don't threaten them with physical harm, they get the message that they're not wanted here. Rude? Yes. In your face? Absolutely! I'm just one guy but I can imagine the positive impact this would have if it became widespread.
Din Maker on the Arab-Muslim distinction:
Not all Arabs are Muslims.

The illegal Mexicans who are here are not Muslim either. How do you feel about them?
The Toll contemplates arson:
Last week while meeting a friend for dinner I looked to my right while stopped at a red light, there I saw it, The Hijab Store. That was the name. It was empty and closed at the time. I’ve never set fire to anything, but it took all my will this time. All of it.
Din Maker is seeing Arabs everywhere!
Are you telling me that within 20 miles of any direction from your house there are no raghead owned businesses? Come on dude...... You must live in a very rural area where it is 20 miles to the closest, Muslim-owned Gas Station/Convenience Store? As far as your Pakistani, Christian, American doctor, you asked a dumb a** question that to which you already know the answer. Of course not. Now, please don’t waste my time with crap like this. Methinks you’re a little offended over me Posting this thread.
9422WMR tries to invent a new slur:
Look at the doctors at your hospitals and medical offices. I’ll bet a large number of them are sandies...
Din Maker seems really intent on making it pure racism:
Some Arabs are Christian.

So they say. Ask them where they go to church and who is their Pastor. Granted I should have said boycott Muslim businesses, not Arab businesses.
caww, as usual, has heard a thing on the Internet that he will now pass on as truth:
Some Churches are telling Arab Christians they can continue to worship in their Mosques even if their Christians. This is part of the merging of faiths........even though they will not make it known they converted....dangerous ground the Christian churches are treading on today.

Wednesday, May 13, 2015

Santorum

In 2012, Santorum was briefly the Freeper anti-Romney hope. But now he's basically in Romney's camp as an impure agent of liberalism.

I'm not sure why, other than that he lost once before.

Of course, I'm also not sure why he thinks running would get him anything useful.

Here, Freepers rage when Santorum goes all "love the sinner, hate the sin" on Bruce Jenner.

ClearCase_guy has an od definition of crime against humanity:
In 2012, I liked Santorum better than many of the others.

But this is stupid. It's NOT a tough issue. Transgenders are mentally ill people who think paying someone to mutilate them will make them happy. And, statistically, this almost never is the outcome.

Got a Y chromosome? Then you're a man. End of story. Trying to change that is a crime.

It's a crime against the self. A crime against humanity. A crime against God. If you're on the wrong side on this one, there is no way I can say a kind word in your favor. Sorry, Santorum.
Flag_This - cowardice is disagreeing with Freepers"
He's a mutilated man with mental health issues and Santorum is a moral coward.
I can't get over Mr Rogers name, and his angry, angry posts:
“My responsibility as a human being is to love and accept everybody. Not to criticize people for who they are. I can criticize, and I do, for what people do, for their behavior. But as far as for who they are, you have to respect everybody,” Santorum said.

So....if someone says they want to have sex with their dog, but don’t because they are afraid of being caught...do we have to respect them? DO we have to accept pedophiles and those who want to have sex with dead people? Heck, do we have to “accept” anyone who wants to discuss their sex life?

When I was in the military, I told folks that “Don’t ask, don’t tell” applied to everyone on duty - that we had a job to do, and discussing our sex lives wasn’t part of it. Why do I have to accept ANYONE who wants to talk about their sex life on TV?
grania remembers when Santorum allowed for compromise:
Last time around, Santorum was gaining momentum and seemed like the best conservative choice. Then he started talking about the need to compromise. End of story.
trisham hated Santorum before it was cool.
I’ve never been a fan, and I’m not surprised.
highball - no one panders like people who say they would outlaw contraceptives!
So ok’ Rick finally pandered to the wrong group.

Good. We need to know that he’s not serious.
WhistlingPastTheGraveyard also with the cowardice:
He’s selling his soul for something he never will and never could have. He’s selling his soul for nothing.

Beyond stupid. It’s pure cowardice.
Long ago, livius sensed the liberalism in Santorum's soul:
I have never liked Santorum, whom I have always considered to be a combination of smarmy and ruthlessly ambitious...but not for any particularly good reason. That is, there isn’t any project he has in mind, he simply wants to get to the top of the heap (without a lot of accomplishments, ala Obama).
faithhopecharity's GOP is very small end exclusive:
Santorum sounds like he is prepping to run as a Dem....
(perhaps he sees the crowded R primary race and the wide-open D primary?)
jjotto wonders if there's a secret agenda:
are these guys conservative candidates with ego problems, or are they RINO stooges pretending to be conservatives?