Some Lib on the Wrong Forums (Not yet zotted!) posts:
Hello freepers, I'm a registered Democrat, but I'd really rather not be. I would much rather sign myself onto some progressive party as I feel they would better represent me, my views and my country. However, if I were to do so in the current political environment I would be throwing my vote away and by not voting for the Democrat I'm helping the Republican candidate inch closer to a plurality. Similarly, I'm sure plenty of you guys would much rather have a strong Libertarian Party or some sort of Evangelical Party instead of being lumped in with the rest of the Republican Party. How do we remedy this problem? Well, that's the tricky part. In close elections if either of us put up an Independent candidate who supported reform, but otherwise held the same views as the candidate we'd normally vote for then we'd end up splitting the vote and guaranteeing that the guy we don't like wins the seat.Later, he follows up:
I don’t want you to agree with me. I don’t want you to join with me in my party. I want you and everyone else to have a party that you can agree with on nearly all issues instead of having 2 parties that you rarely agree with on anything.katwoman5779 doesn't seem to have read beyond the first clause:
Why don’t you libs rename your party to reflect your belief system. Can you say “Communist”?RC one also knows dialogue is for suckers:
We’re far beyond having polite rational conversations with the left. You’re parasites on the nation and we are the cure. Go back to DU you effing parasite.FutureRocketMan explains that the Democratic party has changed, while the Republican party remains pure:
Democrats, up until Franklin Roosevelt, or possibly Woodrow Wilson, were fairly conservative. Religion (Christianity in particular) was much more respected, politically, up until Roosevelt, and later JFK. After FDR, people started looking towards government for help, and thus born the progressive agenda. In the beginning, the progressive left mantel was held by Pinkos and people like Margaret Sanger.central_va is amazed any Democrat could be unsatisfied with Obama:
The Democrat party has been hijacked from Dems like Dan Boren, for Dems like Nancy Pelosi. If you really want a party the espouses your views, either join the Green Party, or the Socialist Party, USA. There are plenty of choices for you. As for having a greater voice for your ideals, you have the GD president right now.
The Republican party is a conservative Party. that is the fact of the party platform. I am proud to call myself a Republican because we are the patriotic, conservative party. We do have our moderates (those who are “moderate” on social issues shouldn’t be called moderates, rather progressive hecklers), but the base and the majority of the party is conservative, and it will remain that way until the Democrats throw off there progressive wing, rejoin the Repubs on the major social issues, and begin arguing with them about HOW to achieve an end, not what that end should be.
While the cyclotron warms up, could you explain why a progressive would have any problems with Obama? He is a radical, so what do you want?Bryanw92 has contempt this liberals' lack of pragmatism:
What are your views? Obama is as progressive as he can afford to be in a first term governing a right-of-center nation, with plenty of hints that he will move radically to the left after November.kosciusko51 explains why he doesn't trust this scheming lib:
The only thing more progressive than Obama in this term is a full-bore card-carrying communist.
The problem is that there are two types of people: Those that want to take from others, and those that don't want to be robbed, even under the color of law. Until we resolve that stealing from one person and giving it to another just because they need it is immoral and/or illegal, then the two sides will remain in opposition. There is no compromise on this position."You're dumb" Responsibility2nd explains:
Also, you want this to happen so that your progressive wing would have a better chance to run the country. Thank you, but no, we have already had enough.
Bye!
OK, I'm IBTZ also.GraceG knows the only real reform is to assure the right people vote:
But I did read your post, and did consider your points.
Up to this point I haven't actually laid out any solutions, so I'll just list what I'd like to see in any reform.
-End Gerrymandering
-Replace First Past the Post with some sort of preferential system
Sorry, this will not affect any real change. And your post indicates you are a Progressive.
Like I said... IBTZ.
Also how about making Voter Fraud be an act of TREASON?SaraJohnson knows all this third party talk is an evil libertarian plot!
Especially when it can clearly be proven intent to undermine the electoral system...
Nothing more I would to see but the “Vote often” DIMS to be hanging at the end of a rope for intentionally undermining the republic.
So you admit that you are a leftist, constitution busting treasonous azz, and then offer us a solution to our problem of the Republican party melding with the Democrat Party to work against the constitution. You suggest that we join your “progressive” (Marxist) pals in an independent party as a solution to our problem of the GOP joining the Marxists of the Democrat party?
You are “sure” we want a libertarian or evangelical party?
The libertarians already have an independent party and I am sure they will join you in your “progressive” efforts. You will find many of them at Occupy Wall Street. They have no clue when they are pushing forward your “progressive” agenda of socialism. Just wag gay marriage and State mandated atheism in front of them and they will putting in your slimey hands.
One has to beware of posts/posters like this ...
ReplyDeletecoming as it does soon into a freepathon (this one came at the beginning of the Q2-2012 thon), there is a strong possibility that it is merely JimRob doing his "agent provocateur" schtick in order to shake out a few more dimes from the gullible.
The lack of a zot is a telling clue.
I doubt RimJob can act sane and encourage cooperation, even to get more SS checks out of his high-waisted simpletons.
DeleteIf he could he wouldn't be running FR. There are much more lucrative cons out there. He's too much of a true believer.
Stick around, post and think.
ReplyDeleteLater on you will think, post, learn and really think.
FR is the active backbone of American Thought, but it will take time and effort on your part to recognize that fact.
70 posted on 04/16/2012 9:55:36 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Dictator Baby-Doc Barack's obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND U.S. Constitution.))
Uh...sure, Graewoulf. Sure it is.
Oh, poor Graewoulf. He wants to be important.
DeleteHere is some of that great American Thought,
Delete"Lets be honest here.
Obama is pushing all the buttons, to start a race war.
He wants one.
He is pushing for a full on civil war in this country, so that he can twist the last screws in his fundamental change of this country.
He will declare martial law and burn what's left of our constitution.
Laws will be what he decides and enacted as how he deems.
7 posted on 7/19/2013 2:34:14 PM by mountn man"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3045069/posts?page=7#7
I am always confused by the fact that Freepers blame Obama for fomenting a race war. If that were true, wouldn't he be giving them something they seem to desperately crave?
Deleteeven freepers can still see that ordinary sheeple as well as the history books still frown on race wars, so they need obama to own this, especially since it's pretty clear freepers will have to start it themselves.
DeleteSilly neocons..
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