Catholicism and Condoms

AIDS in Latin America is on the rise. Some people are advocating condoms. The Catholic church, of course, disagrees. Free Republic generally is a bit agnostic regarding condoms. But here someone blamed a church, so awaay we go:

The very first post makes some interesting posts:

Yeah, we all know condoms are more effective than abstinence. (sarcasm) More holier-than-thou lecturing from the demonic U.N.

I'll ignore oft disproved idea that abstinence education actually prevents sex, due to a more pressing concern...Demonic? I've got to say, the UN seems pretty ineffective for a demonic organization.

Yeah, right. Put your faith in a piece of rubber manufactured in the third world.

Or not.

The UN worships some very strange gods.

This may explain why the "demonic UN" us not so successful; worshiping condoms? If you want to worship demons, you're doing it wrong. More sacrifices, less latex worship.

Putting faith in condoms to prevent disease is science, not faith. Generally science has proven more effective in combating disease than faith. Indeed, I'd wager poster ArrogantBastard has been to the doctor and taken advantage of some of that science himself.

And, the final bit of crazy, the argument that condoms are unreliable because they're manufactured in the third world...WTF?

MrB continues with the faith trumps science trend:

Libs can’t/won’t understand that there is a REASON for traditional values - and this is an example.

They “can’t” understand because their arrogance tells them that their limited time on earth has given them more wisdom than the accumulated knowledge of billions of people over thousands of years.

They “won’t” understand because such understanding would necessarily lead to some self control and denial of instant gratification.

Condoms were a leap backwards! Traditional values were created with AIDS in mind! Never mind it only emerged in the late seventies/early eighties!

Aplause for SuzyQ who makes an actual argument!

I’m always amused by this argument. If someone is a faithful Catholic, they won’t be engaging in either extramarital or homosexual relations, so they won’t be in need of a condom. Others who do engage in those activities don’t give a hoot what the Church says, and will use a condom or not, depending on how THEY feel about it. The Church shouldn’t be blamed for their irresponsibility.

Alas, it assumes there are only 2 types of people: faithless heathens and good catholics. The idea that some people will obey some (easier and better feeling) tenets and not others (abstinence is hard! Trust me) just doesn't fly.

HKMk23 brings up another facet of crazy:

OH NO, we CAN’T blame the poor humans for their behavior!

Perish the thought that we, the United Nations, should EVER actually blame the guilty. Why, the very IDEA! It’s a violation of our....our, uh....

[Idiom?]

...YES! IDIOM!

We ALWAYS blame the blameless and exonerate the guilty; it’s in our organizational DNA, you know.

It’s the only true path to equality.

“Damn the good, and up the damnable,” that’s the spirit of global unity and peace.

/retching sarcasm

I'm not sure exactly what he's saying, but it looks like the poster is blaming the Latinos for their AIDS and no one else. I agree! Death is a proper punishment for unprotected sex! A slow wasting death! We're getting into Phelps territory here...

No, Anal sex is spreading AIDS in Latin America.

By Cracky!

I think you’re right!

Ug.