Into the birther weeds

These days, just about every other thread on Free Republic is about the latest drama about the birth certificate. It's so fast moving and fanciful I can't really be bothered to keep up. But it is educational to see what's going on these days.

The story so far: head birther Orly Taitz has what she claims to be Obama's Kenyan birth certificate. Then some guy's Austrailian birth certificate turns up and looks suspiciously similar.

SirJohnBarleycorn sets up a possible scenario:

Step 1: Anonymous Obama-bot forges Kenyan birth certificate and sends it to Orly.

Step 2: After Orly is lured into putting her credibility behind the Kenyan birth certificate, the Bomford template is publicly revealed by the Obama-bot, undercutting Orly.

The problem arose in that the so-called “birther” side was coming to the conclusion that the Kenyan birth certificate was faked, so the originators of the fraud had to come out earlier than they wanted to with the Bomford template.

WND was already backing away from it last night.

surfer provides an alternate theory where the truth doesn't matter:

You have to understand legal maneuvering to see what Orly is doing here.

Regardless of whether the Kenyan BC is legit or not...it is a reason to file a motion to compel discovery which would open a door that no one has been successful in doing.

If the BC is legit then the game goes to a whole other level if it isn’t but Orly is allowed discovery (which can be very wide in scope) than it served its legal purpose.

Additionally the Google malware advisory on her site within hours of the original posting is quite suspect.

One clue of fakery is that the Orly certificate has as it's serial number "47O44." Considering Obama's age at the time the certificate came out, and that he is the 4th President, you'd think that would end things right there. cvq3842 has another possibility:

Such coincidences do occur.

There was a Federal Reserve note - a dollar bill, issued in 1963, from the Dallas Federal Reserve branch. It was dated Series 1963, had a huge K in a seal on the front, and an 11 in each corner.

People said it commemorated Kennedy’s death in Dallas in November, the 11th month, of 1963.

But Dallas had been designated region 11 of the Federal reserve for years, and the letter K is the eleventh number.

There was nothing unusual at all about these notes, but all the “signs” lined up.

Many of the “Paul is dead” clues were uncanny as well. But last I heard he’s still alive and well.

Cicero thinks the Austrialian certificate must be forged!

Well, the Orly Taitz certificate remains to be checked out by the experts. So far, everything seems to be credible, and the desperate efforts to discredit it have all failed to do so.

As for this nonsense from a leftist source, how does the fact that leftists are now posting bunches of faked and forged birth certificates on the web demonstrate that Taitz’s certificate is a fake?

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Sorry, but the sudden appearance of a poorly forged Aussie BC proves nothing.

LTC.Ret also lives in a truth free zone:

I will say that other sites, especially those on the left, seemed to focus all efforts ONLY to deconstruct this image to PROVE that it is false, or discredit the image in some way, and NOT make any real effort to determine its legitimacy -— totally 100% opposite of the way the Hawaiian image was greeted by these same people. It seems that those on the left are the TRUE BELIEVERS, and we here are the SKEPTICS!!!

Since I KNOW for a FACT that Obama lied on his Bar Association application by stating, when asked for other names and aliases “NONE”, and have good reason to believe that his draft registration was forged at the worst of backdated at best -— it is not a leap of faith or common sense to believe that ONCE A LIAR, ALWAYS A LIAR.

It sucks how the other side keeps PROOVING things FAKE!

editor-surveyor thinks World Net Daily's version is fake, but only cause it was hacked and the real one was replaced:

"World Net Daily was hacked?"

WND gets hacked about every three minutes.

An image displayed can be anywhere in the world that has a T1 or better connection.

ncfool appeals to authority, thinking an anonymous source quoted on http://www.antimullah.com/ counts as authority

MEANWHILE FROM LONDON

Carl says: “I can’t identify myself here because I’d lose my job.

I’m a low level employee of the US State Department attached to the Overseas Service and I just finished a conference call with two lawyers in London and two journalists from Politico.com who all stated that they just left a late meeting at the London Foreign Office and they were assured that “The Kenyan birth certificate is without question, 100% authentic.”

I’m not surprised.”

Eye of Unk has no problem throwing in with crazy people:

I am inclined to support crazy people because they are DOING SOMETHING.

The left wants us to all take sedatives, go to sleep, allow the brainwashing to take effect.

I am about to get so crazy myself I swear if there was a physical confrontation I’m going to strip naked and paint myself blue like Mel Gibson.

There is crazy and there is crazy, we are all going to get crazy because we are fed up being nice people.

If Taking Back America mean we must act like Orly then by all means we should.

Crazed attackers create a unique type of fear, you have no idea what they will do next.

Crazed birthers with Obama Joker bumber stickers, and we are directing them from Sarah Palins neighborhood.

You liberals should wear Hazmat suits to contain your exploding heads.