massgopguy is just itching for a dictatorship:
Have the National Guard remove the good judge.ronnyquest hates checks and balances:
So, legislators make laws, but judges can say, “Um, no, no, that’s not a law.” Yup, it’s broken and time for us to press the big, red reset button.Da Coyote is classy:
And the good people of Wisconsin (e.g., the non union folks who actually do useful work) can tell this judge to shove it up her smelly Obama.blackdog wants some kind of blue-collar guerrilla campaign he saw in a movie:
I’d say it’s time to go “Fight Club” on her professional and personal surroundings and associates.Blue collar...usual union.
sand88 just kind of sullenly walks away.
The left is pure evil. The are outright thieves. Let them get their way (for now) it's only a matter of time before reality will crush them.
If the Republicans fought has as hard for Liberty, as the left fights for tyranny, then our Republic would be saved.
The reality is likely that we are an inexorable path towards a Socialist hell.
So I see,
ReplyDeleteA leftist judge blocking an elected legistlative mandate is checks and balances, but a federal judge blocking Obama's health "care" law is baaaad.
The Wisconsin legistlature followed its own rules. BTW, it was liberal dems who fled Wisconsin and shirked their duty like cowards. Imagine what the reaction of the libs and their MSM lapdogs would be if the Repubs pulled the same stunt during the health care law.
The judges who said the Health Care law was unconstitutional did not issue TROs. If they did, I would say it was unwise, but I can tell you I wouldn't be calling for Obama to disobey, or to arrest the judges.
ReplyDeleteAs for Wisconsin following it's own laws, it's pretty arcane stuff, it seems. There are 2 statutes one saying notice on the bulletin board, another saying 24 hour notice. How the interact seems complicated enough that I'm not willing to make a call. You could be right, but I'll wait for the WI Supreme Court on it.
@Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteThe Republicans did pull a similar stunt during the health care law. It's called filibustering, and the "liberal" MSM pretty much gave them a pass on it. Not like back when Tom Delay threatened the nuclear option and the Dems folded like a house of cards while the "liberal" MSM repeated Republican talking points about Dems being anti-American by not just letting them have an up or down vote.
@euphgeek,
ReplyDeleteFilibustering is permitted by law and the constitution. At least the Republicans wished to debate the Obama care law. It is the dems that railroaded the law, without debating its merits. Quitting and running away is cowardice and dereliction of duty. It is quite a stretch to compare the two. The MSM always supported Obama's health "care" law, even while the CBO repeatedly contradicted the supposed benefits of the law.
@Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteFilibustering is mentioned in no law or the constitution. It is simply the rules of the Senate. The Dems didn't debate the merits of HCR? They debated it for over a year! They reached out constantly to Republicans for their input. But even with Republican input no Republican would vote even for cloture. What happened to a simple up or down vote?
The Wisconsin Dems did something very similar to the filibuster which was to deny the Governor a quorum. It is not "quitting" or "running away." They had the full support of the people they were representing, unlike Walker. How would you feel if a Democrat threatened to have Republicans arrested for filibustering?
And by the way, the final report from the CBO just before HCR passed was that it would reduce the deficit by $130 billion over the next 10 years, so they did not "repeatedly contradict" the benefits.
Filibustering is mentioned in no law or the constitution. It is simply the rules of the Senate.
ReplyDeleteGreat so it is legal and allowed procedure
The Dems didn't debate the merits of HCR? They debated it for over a year! They reached out constantly to Republicans for their input. But even with Republican input no Republican would vote even for cloture
LOL, they debated it - among themselves. Oh and remember the great healer - Obama saying to the Republicans - I won?. Republicans offered up their own health care reform plan, but Senate Dema simply ignored it.
The Wisconsin Dems did something very similar to the filibuster which was to deny the Governor a quorum. It is not "quitting" or "running away."
Ummm no. The Senators get paid to do their job, i...e pass bills. The Dems ran away from their jobs like a little schoolyard bully cause they could not have their way. What do you think would happen if If I refused to show up to work for 14 days If I disagreed with my team members? I would get fired.
They had the full support of the people they were representing, unlike Walker.
"People", you mean union goons. BTW, The "people" elected Walker, so I Walker has the support of the people, not just the union goons. Last time I checked Wisconsin was not a dictatorship, and Walker was elected in a majority and a popular mandate. It is Walker who has the support of the people.
And by the way, the final report from the CBO just before HCR passed was that it would reduce the deficit by $130 billion over the next 10 years, so they did not "repeatedly contradict" the benefits.
Ummm..wrong again. Here is the report from the CBO arguing that ObamaCare will increase deficits.
http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/113xx/doc11307/Specified_Authorizations_HR3590.pdf
(Not sure why this didn't post the first time, but here it is again.)
ReplyDelete@Anonymous,
Great so it is legal and allowed procedure
Right, just like the Dems denying Walker a quorum.
they debated it - among themselves
Because the Republicans refused to take part in the debates. They just stayed on the sidelines and threw spitballs.
Republicans offered up their own health care reform plan, but Senate Dema simply ignored it.
They didn't ignore it, they just didn't use their complete bill (I believe they incorporated some of it, though). Besides, the Democrats were the majority. Do you think the minority should be passing all the bills?
The Dems ran away from their jobs
No, they ran away from Walker and his attempts to have them arrested. They did their job of representing their constituents by denying Walker a quorum.
"People", you mean union goons.
There you go with your partisan editorializing. "Union goons" are people of Wisconsin, too. Wisconsin is a pretty strong union state.
BTW, The "people" elected Walker, so I Walker has the support of the people
The "people" elected the Democratic senators, too, so they also have the support of the people.
Last time I checked Wisconsin was not a dictatorship
Yes, and I'm glad to see Walker has stopped ignoring judicial rulings like a dictator.
Ummm..wrong again. Here is the report from the CBO arguing that ObamaCare will increase deficits.
http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/113xx/doc11307/Specified_Authorizations_HR3590.pdf
Nothing in there about increasing deficits that I can see. All I see is a breakdown of the costs of each provision. Try this link: http://cbo.gov/ftpdocs/113xx/doc11355/hr4872.pdf