MachIV knows Boston was asking for it:
considering the politics of Boston(off the charts leftwing extremism)couldn’t one conclude they basically voted for this kind of action and have been doing so for generations?
truth_seeker knows Boston loves terrorism!
There will be joy in Bean Town, for all the overtime for 1st responders standing around.
Wurlitzer knows the only way to cure cancer is to incinerate you:
I still remember the dancing in the streets after 9/11 and the FBI agents who would not go after other rag heads.
While all may not COMMIT violent Jihad (redundant) they all support it with their silence.
When exterminating Cancer you get rid of every cell possible and don’t try to keep those cells which while not normal are doing anything YET.
The USA bar-b-qued the cult of Branch Davidians and the USA must at minimum deport every last member of the cult of Islam.
3Fingas has never met a southern black liberal, I guess:
A lot of these liberals and apolitical people could become conservatives over time, but the damage they do getting from point A to point B makes trying to convert them almost not worth the effort.
Texas has a litmus test of sorts. Unless the liberal goes to Austin, he or she will most likely develop an allergic reaction to the number of mega churches and 4 wheel drive trucks they encounter. LoL.
N-R-T envisions an alternate, more fascist America:
...hello, President Goldwater!
In an alternate world the United States decisively defeated North Vietnam, put the USSR out of it's misery before 1989, never legalized non-emergency abortions, kept its pre-1965 immigration (and teaching) standards and puts traitors on trial. That United States would also never allow a mind-controlling death cult to be protected under the guise of religion.
Vaduz just assumes everything bad when it comes to Democrats:
It’s a democrat thing the entire tribe are [Meth] users.It’s why the young and the dumb love them.
Blood of Tyrants has a favorite aircraft, but is sure the government wasn't involved:
I read that when they designed the F16, they deliberately kept the generals and politicians out of the designing in order to make a superior aircraft.
Jim Robinson has no idea what "Justice delayed is justice denied" refers to.
Justice delayed is justice denied. It’ll take decades to get this guy tried and through the endless appeals process, a delay eagerly supported by our progressively politicized justice system and sycophant press. He’ll probably die of old age before it’s all said and done. A military court would’ve made short work of him. Fair trial, quick hanging. Done.
Responsibility2nd is starting in on Chelsea Clinton:
Its a wonder Chelsea is not gay. She would have made a good lesbian. Like her mother.
the Boston bombing taught
driftdiver that he lives in a fascist conspiratorial hellscape:
But we have learned a few things.
1. The police will follow unconstitutional orders.
2. The terrorists are here and prepared.
3. Our govt knows who the terrorists are.
4. Our govt is ignoring the terrorists and allowing them to conduct their operations unimpeded.
5. Our govt is allowing more terrorists in through immigration.
6. The tactics the police will use against ‘weapons dealers’ once the ban is in place.
We already know the current govt considers people who post on websites like FR to be as or more dangerous then the two Boston bombers.
ez's timeline ties it all together:
Timeline
2011 - Tamerlan Tsaraev (TT) flies to Moscow and
is unaccounted for for 6 months.
Aug 23 2012- Abdul Rahman Ali Issa Al-Salimi AlHarbi
(AAH) requests a visit with the WH
Aug 24 - AAH vists the WH
Aug 28 - AAH enters Boston on a special student
visa.
Sept 11 - TT 3 friends are killed with
their throats slit. There is no sign of forced
entry meaning they probably knew their killer.
Sept 11 - Djokhar Tsaraev becomes a US Citizen
Sept 11 - The US CIA operation in Behghazi is
attacked leading to 4 deaths. A video is blamed.
April 15 2013- TT and DT bomb the Boston Marathon.
AAH is injured and tackled by alert citizens.
April 16 - AlHarbi is described as a person of
interest, but that classification is later
removed.
April 16 - SoS John Kerry has an unscheduled
interview with a Saudi Ambassador.
GraceG thinks super long-term
The greenies are gonna cry that the sun has betrayed them in 4 billion years when the sun expands and burns this planet to a crispy cinder, hopefully the greenies will be on the earth when this happens.....
Monorprise knows the only way a parliament can avoid being tyrannical is the constant threat of secession:
But a parliamentary system like Canada or UK is not inherently tyrannical
In Canada and the U.K. they have the retained the right of secession. In this way their central Parliament are held in some level of basic check against too much oppression against a regional minority.
After all if A prime-minster like Obama tried to implement all his policy’s which oppressing political & economic interest of rural and southern States, then the same states may just withdraw their consent to be governed.(secede)
In that way politicians like Obama are forced to govern in ways more agreeable to all regions at least.
NoGrayZone is frustrated no one else turns correlation into causation:
You can thank the Saudi whom purchased a majority of Fox for that.
Then Glen was fired and Fox has turned left.
Infiltration can be seen with the naked eye!!! I just don’t get people who TURN A BLIND EYE towards it! Do they WANT to be slaves?
null and void is very afraid:
Imagine a 100,000 muslim jihadi H-1B visas working in power plants, fertilizer factories, refineries, chemical manufacturers, hospitals, utilities, dams, pharmaceutical formulators, web hub server farms, municipal water supplies, sewage treatment...
rcrngroup truly understands Obama:
For all intents & purposes, socialism, communism, fascism, nazism, are all basically the same thing, absolute tyrannical power by an elitist few with a dictator held in place by wobbly alliances with elitist factions. In any case, 0dumb0 would LOVE a militaristic uniform of his own design which would encompass both communist & nazi designs.
Just like in black Africa, where thugs like Mugabe, or Idi Amin, or Moboto, among many other black dictators, they just LOVE bright, flashy uniforms & caps, with oodles of medals & emblams for heroism or bravery, that they never did any thing to deserve in any way.
0dumb0 is a thug dictator, no matter what the commie muslim pig bastard wears!
UCANSEE2 wonders if the Kenyans were forewarned about Boston:
Glenn Beck was just talking about Al-Harabi and said he was ‘just’ there watching the ‘Kenyan runners’ in the Marathon. It was said sarcastically, but I think it important (and he missed it) that the Kenyan runners were not at the Marathon. They were officially protesting the Marathon. Probably told by the Kenyan government not to participate in the Marathon. This naturally would make one wonder ... why ?
murron would allow
baby factories women to go to High School, but not College!
I agree that the chances of changing anyone’s mind on birth control in this country are non existent. But to say that women have to have babies at age 15 to get the birth rate up is not so. Women in this country are not going to go back to having 8 or 9 babies, but if they did, they could be around 20 or 19. Keeping them out of college, maybe.
FR is becoming less and less a political commenting site and more and more a crazy conspiracy theory site.
ReplyDeleteAs there are already plenty of those around the web, FR is becoming more and more irrelevant.
JimRob's screeds are becoming more and more shrill and disconnected with reality as his freepathon grift comes in slower and slower (I believe he has already faked about 4-5% of the donations just to keep up the appearances of interest).
FR is still going to be around for a while..the decent conservative thinkers and posters on the site are nearly gone though to be have been replaced by a combination of Christian Taliban, CT kooks, Stormfront Lite, gov't haters/seccionist and other like minded folks folks..all folks on the fringe of society.
DeleteThe site will never have the impact it did have 8-10 years ago.
In my fantasy Encyclopedia Freeperica, JimRob's role as capricious enforcer of ideological purity will tower over everything else. He's the Joffrey Baratheon of FR, in a way :)
DeleteYeah, I'm going to write about the rise of conspiratorial craziness in Free Republic sometime soon.
ReplyDeleteWhile it would be a full-time job to cover it thoroughly (maybe there's some grant money available?), I look forward to whatever you can do, oz :).
DeleteOne of the aspects of this turn I find fascinating is the counter-rise of the anti-conspiracy Freeper. (This is a subset of the dwindling not-totally-batshit caucus.) It always cheers me up a bit when I find one, and I can spend a few minutes looking at their posting history - it gives me a little hope.
For a community that has such fringe-y core beliefs, there's still a lot of diversity in the Freeper commentariat: the cat people, the various religious caucuses, the STEM geeks who write about astronomy and other sciences, the devotees of niche literary and musical genres, the preppers, the gun people (and their weird cousins, the price-of-ammo trackers), the ethnics, the libertarians, the embattled atheists...
I can see a Freeper taxonomy as a fun project. And then the Grand Unified Theory of Freeperism to tie it all together! (Sadness and Alienation would be key components of that GUT, is my guess. But that's not unique to Freepers!)
Maybe one day, when we have a post-scarcity society and unlimited leisure time, someone will excavate JimRob's bunker, dust off the FR servers, and compile the Encyclopedia Freeperica. Til then, oz, thanks for what you do with your spare time :)
I think that conspiratorial craziness rises any time a Democrat is elected. If FR had been around in the early '90s, we might have seen more than just Whitewater and Vince Foster. Of course it helps their craziness that the current president is also black.
ReplyDeleteAt least crazy conspiracies associated with Democrats are allowed, while those associated with Republicans or a Republican administration are deleted or zotted.
DeleteAs for "black" comments ... even during Obama's first administration the racist comments you find on FR now would have been deleted.
The fact Obama decisively won a second term, even against a Republican opponent that freepers themselves openly hated, drove FR to new levels of crazy racism led by JimRob himself.
The reelection, gun control returning as a real issue, then Boston...
DeleteIt's made Freepers stop reinterpreting facts to suit them, and start making them up entirely.
I agree somewhat with euphgeek that conspiratorial craziness is in part generated by the mere presence of an elected Democrat. However, I think that there's a bit more to this.
ReplyDeleteIf we go back just eight years, it was an entirely different world for Freepers. They had forced Dan Rather's resignation over the National Guard memos. A Republican was president, with majorities in the House and Senate. Moreover, Karl Rove was talking about the "Permanent Republican Majority." They were part of a majority coalition that had won elections. Criticizing the Commander-in-Chief in time of war was "treason." It wasn't perfect for Freepers, but at least the "non-treasony" people held power, and these "non-treasony" people to some extent kowtowed to the ideological rails that Freepers were fond of.
The President's election shocked Freepers. It was so shocking that some embraced birtherism as a magical means to wish the results of that election away. But his subsequent reelection, where they convinced themselves that most of the pollsters were actively lying to them I think has truly frightened them. One major component of this is that the Republicans pulled out every stop to try and de-elect Obama. Whether they rationalize it away as Democrats stealing the election or that the RINOs betrayed true conservative principles or they would have won, on some level the current Republican coalition (as of 2012) failed at least at the Presidential level. This sorta brings me to my second point, that the changing demographics of the United States, in concert with at least some liberalization on social issues, is also pushing them off into conspiracy land.
Whether it's immigration or gay marriage Freepers are seeing at least some threat of compromise, Freepers face two equally unpleasant alternatives: Either be part of a coalition that will likely embrace positions that Freepers seem to think are treasonous and/or satanic OR be part of a minority coalition that is relatively powerless to one composed of the enemies of Freeperdom.
I admit that I have oversimplified things and probably don't have all the nuances right. But I think that especially since the President's reelection, this potential marginalization (in relatively short amount of time) is driving them off into cuckoo space.
I think you're on to something in the reversal-of-fortune thing: things were looking up for Freepers (relatively speaking) in 2001-2006, roughly, and then the whole country stabs them in the back. Over and over.
DeleteAnother difference is (to probably misuse a technical term) the feedback-loop thing. If you wanted to talk to other Vince-Foster-was-murdered believers in the 90s, many of your fellow devotees were still getting their info through the US Mail - newsletters, videotapes, etc. They're all online now, pretty much. And there are a lot more conspiracy-curious folks who never got a chance to participate before.
The process of developing and spreading and modifying the conspiracy theory is democratized, meaning that the loonier loonies have a semi-equal voice. And it's crowdsourced, so the process of striving for greater ideological purity is speeded up.
It will be interesting to see what happens :)
Monorprise fails UK governance forever. I may not know much about the relationship between the various parts of the UK, but I'm pretty damned sure Devon can't just secede from the UK because something No. 10 does pisses them off. Or is Monorprise referring to the Scottish Independence referendum? Cos that's really only happening because of legislation passed in the mid-90s (and because Westminster knows Salmond is going to lose. If he wasn't they'd have dug up some ancient statute or another and prevented the vote from happening).
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