Gruberfest

Gruber has very much become a Thing on the right. Personally, I find the admission that sausage is made in Washington quite unremarkable, but someone decided this would play well with the folks, and promoted Gruber to head Obamacare architect, and let loose with the pearl-clutching.

The culmination of all this theater (and I suspect it's end) was in the grandest national political theater of them all, the House Oversight Committee. As with many things in DC, the Committee was substantive for a moment in like the 1980s, and then was quickly subsumed into the DC messaging machine and became a completely rehearsed charade.

Freepers are therefore naturally disappointing when nothing of note happens. And when Freepers get disappointed these days, they get litigious...and lynchy.

pieceofthepuzzle realizes this is all for show, but blames Gruber.

Can't speak for Gruber, but these public acts of contrition are often scripted by ‘professional speaking coaches’ and lawyers.
In this day and age, propaganda is everywhere.

TexasFreeper2009 wants to take this all the way.

We need to just start calling democrats .. Grubers.. or Goobers for short!

Too stupid to realize how stupid they are!

publius911 references some taxonomy of lies before lamenting the lack of jail time for passing bad laws.

There are two fundamental ways to lie, and a half dozen additional variants. Gruber used them all, and might have invented a few new ones.

Gruber can't deny that he is key to perpetrating perhaps the largest financial fraud ever in U.S. history, by private criminals and government ones. Before the fraud has run its course and have a wooden stake driven through it, he would have enabled tens of trillions$ to disappear.

That he was simply a "consultant" to government does not invalidate his crime or erase the damage. The American taxpayer must be made whole.

Do the RICO statutes truly exempt government, its employees and "consultants" from its punishment provisions?

Who speaks for us, our children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren who will, one way or another, be paying the monumental cost of the fraud until the 22nd Century?

Will all the players in this crime (Including members of Congress and the Senate, they know who they are) truly get away scot free? No Jail time? No Fines? No forfeiture of ill-gained "bonuses" and golden retirement parachutes paid for by the American taxpayer?

Really?

molson209 folds the torture memo into the narrative.

Don’t worry Gruber the Senate(sore losers) are releasing the CIA report to DISTRACT from you

hal ogen knows Gruber has to go to jail, though he doesn't specify for what:

His apology is accepted if he has his assets seized and he is imprisoned. The arrogant loser is a criminal.

noinfringers2 wants prison for the crime of Obamacare as well

I will not accept that any admission from Gruber is payment enough for the crime that has been perpetrated on the US public. Within any condition of exposed illegal/unlawful acts this man should get a prison sentence. Being some high flouted prof from a high flouted university should not be a ‘out of jail’ game card.

MrB has completely bought into the idea that he's a police detective, and the crime is Obamacare:

All we want, Mr Gruber, is you, on record, admitting that you and those who were pushing Obamacare

lied in order to get it passed.

Just confess and name others in on the deal, and we’ll let you go.

publius911 wants to indict for saying Obamacare was well debated:

In his apologies, Mr. Gruber said the law is a landmark achievement that was debated thoroughly and transparently.

Was this MENSA genius under oath when he uttered that? I hope I hope, please, please...

Even the mentally-challenged GOP leadership should be able to see that the statement is a lie, on its face, no argument, and charge him with perjury, with a punishment equal to the damage he caused. Same for his co-conspirators.

Unless he means to claim, "the landmark [in criminal annals] achievement was debated thoroughly and transparently" among the co-conspirators exclusively among themselves. The American Public is too stupid to unravel expert parsing of plain English!



Digging himself a deeper and deeper hole.

Will the enabler GOP fail to prosecute this one too?

FatherofFive really doesn't like repetitive and boring testimony:

He gave the same answer to most every question - "I'm a PhD, a MIT professor, but made up inappropriate statements to make me look smart."

He needs to be in jail.

Via Giuliani, Baynative ropes in MIT

On Fox News, Rudy Guliani just said that Gruber admitted to committing fraud during questioning by the committee. He may have exposed MIT as participating in the fraud.

Baynative then goes further, and wants to all the Universities!

It seems so to me and it would rightfully involve not only MIT, but the other Universities involved and the gang that pushed the ACA as well. I’d like to see someone with guts take them all down.

longfellow, of course.

One bullet to the head should suffice.