Scott Brown is a dying breed - he's a moderate Republican. He's making deals with Democrats! He's not yelling about the death of the Republic! He's against the government shutdown! Freepers know what that means! Time for the 10 minutes of hate:
VeeP22's gaydar has gone off:
Carley notes Obama is also gay:Methinks he’s light in the loafers.
___________________Wouldn’t surprise me any, he’s too “pretty” IF you know what I mean.... Guys who pose nude for magazines are trying to prove something, and that’s not a “manly man” type in my book. Next thing we’ll be reading about what kind of window treatments he likes. LOL!
VeeP22 follows up:He was spotted early by the other pansy in the oval office.
They are good buds and play basketball together.
blech
He’s sickening as are all the rest of the rinos. Where are the REAL MEN today, these guys are all so effeminate it makes you sick, that’s why someone like Trump is hitting a chord with people, we’re all tired of the “white glove” treatment the GOP engages in. They are nothing but country club butt boys, who wouldn’t say sh!t if their mouths were full of it.Georgia Girl 2 doesn't like mavericks who go rogue:
He’s a Republican he’s supposed to vote with the Republicans.Ditter at least has his spite:
I sent money to Brown and while he has been a disappointment to me in some ways there are a couple of things I am glad about. First it makes me smile to think of the Massholes whose heads exploded when a Republican got Kennedys seat. Second, he has my address and continues to send me letters asking for more money. I can use his own pre paid envelopes to tell him what a HUGE disappointment he is to me.
Scott Brown is a dying breed - he's a moderate Republican.
ReplyDeleteModerate Democrats are a dying breed too. Reid and Pelosi never, ever deal or compromise with Republicans. Sad. No wonder US is f***ed up. Both parties are hostage to dogmatic extermists
Yeah, Pro-life Mormon Harry Reid sure is radical! And Pelosi ain't no Bachmann either.
ReplyDeletePretty much the only non-moderate elected Democrat left is Dennis Kucinich (Alan Grayson was voted out last time). The rest of them try to meet Republicans half way. Can you imagine the outcry from their base if a Republican did that? Democrats don't pander to their crazy base like the Republicans do. There is no equivalence between the two parties in that respect.
ReplyDelete@Ozymandias and @euphgeek,
ReplyDeleteNancy "madame jet" Pelosi. Yep, you are right, she ain't no Bachmann. She is the left-wing version of Bachmann. Her approval ratings were in the 20s when she was booted from office of the Speaker.
The rest of them try to meet Republicans half way.
How? Can you name a single Dem who does that? Including Barack "I won" Obama? Pelosi shot down every single GOP proposal on the 2010 budget. Every single one/
Democrats don't pander to their crazy base like the Republicans do.
They simply pander to the unions and corrupt companies like GE. Remember the shrieking over eeevil Bushitler and Enron? Now GE pays no tax, outsources jobs and is on Obama's commitee on jobs and competitiveness. Yet the shrieking harpies of the left are no-where to be found.
There is no equivalence between the two parties in that respect.
You are right, Dems pander to the hard-left and Repubs pander to the hard-right. So they are not the same
I may have a pleasing symmetry to say both parties are bad, but seems to me the Republicans are worse at the moment.
ReplyDeletePelosi has her flaws, no doubt, but till she starts endorsing crazy one-world-government theories, I'm not seeing a Bachmann parallel.
Both sides have their crazies, sure, but Republicans are letting some of theirs hold office, whereas Dems just have them on the radio and internet.
The budget negotiations are rather involved, but Dems seem to be making a number of cuts, and are willing to put public broadcasting, heating oil and a lot of their sacred cows on the block. Republicans, though, are trying to abolish Medicare.
As to Dems pandering, well, they are politicians, that's what you do. Republicans pander to corporations, true, but also to folks who think our President is a Muslim, and that all liberals are Commies. Dems get the unions and environmentalists and whatnot, but I've yet to see them cozy up to Truthers.
As to your note that the left hasn't been hitting Obama for the same stuff they hit Bush for, you are correct - partisans will be partisan. Though there are exceptions - Glenn Greenwald, Kucinitch, etc.
Finally, shrieking harpies?! Oy.
but seems to me the Republicans are worse at the moment.
ReplyDeleteOn what metric?
Pelosi has her flaws, no doubt, but till she starts endorsing crazy one-world-government theories, I'm not seeing a Bachmann parallel.
Bachmann may be kooky, but Pelosi is a hardcore left-wing Senator who among others was responsible for blocking compromise. BTW, if Bachmann gets the GOP nomination in 2012, I will vote for Obama. Bachmann belongs in Mars,lol.
The budget negotiations are rather involved, but Dems seem to be making a number of cuts, and are willing to put public broadcasting, heating oil and a lot of their sacred cows on the block.
I am talking about the 2010, not 2011. In 2010, with unbridled majority, the Dems simply acted as if the US was a one-party state. In fairness, the GOP too acted terribly from 2002-2006. I cannot forgive the Delay-Hastert cronyism that doomed the GOP.
As to Dems pandering, well, they are politicians, that's what you do.
Precisely my point. We need someone who panders to no-one or atleast keeps the pandering to a minimum.
true, but also to folks who think our President is a Muslim, and that all liberals are Commies.
I simply think Obama is a terrible President. His religion is not relevant. He could be the next in line to the Pope, and my criticism of him would be the same. Many Republicans are the same as me. Sure they are Birthers but they are kooky fringe, like the Truthers
As to your note that the left hasn't been hitting Obama for the same stuff they hit Bush for, you are correct - partisans will be partisan.
My simple point was that, I am sick of partisans - left and right-wing. I am a realist not bound by blind dogma.
Finally, shrieking harpies?! Oy.
Heh, that was a strech. I agree.
I will admit my heuristic is not statistical or anything. I'm not talking about policies, I'm talking about kooky.
ReplyDeleteI'll spot you Kucinitch and Waters for the Dems (though Kucinitch is debatable IMO), you guys get Bachmann, Gomert, Paul, West, King, Paul again, etc. etc. Free Republic gets six-figures in hits per week, I think. DU gets like 1/10 of that. See also FOX News Commentators and Talk Radio.
Pelosi may be super left, but she's not crazy, she's an ideologue. That would be my thesis, I guess. The Dems elect blue dogs and ideologues, the right elects crazy people and ideologues.
I'll grant that the Dems did not cover themselves in glory in 2010, but I gotta chalk that up to politics. But I still vote that the dems are stupid, not evil. I mean, they had a filibuster-proof majority for a bit there, where the rules say you get to act like a one-party state, and the Dems did very little with it.
Pandering for votes has been a political tradition since ancient Greece. So has partisans being tools. I accept both as part of human nature and do my best to tune them out. But you're right to be disappointing - people should aspire for higher. I should be more pissed off at it than I am.
Moreover, politicians who pander tend to be pragmatists. Pragmatists in power can do a lot less damage than idealists. I mean, it's not like unions OR corporations want to upset the apple-cart at the moment.
Not to thrilled with Obama either, though obviously from the other side mostly. I have a bunch of Republican friends, and for the most part they think Obama is an awful President, not an awful person. But that returns me to the original point - both sides have their kooky fringe, but the Republicans' fringe seems to have a lot more sway on their party at the moment.
@Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteNancy "madame jet" Pelosi.
You are aware, are you not, that every speaker gets a jet? She was not treated differently in that respect. Nor does having a jet make one partisan.
Yep, you are right, she ain't no Bachmann. She is the left-wing version of Bachmann.
In what way? I've never heard her call for investigations over who in congress is anti-American.
Her approval ratings were in the 20s when she was booted from office of the Speaker.
So low approval ratings means she's just like Bachmann?
How? Can you name a single Dem who does that?
Just about every Dem every day. The entire HCR debate moved the bill further and further to the right as Dems tried to get even one Republican to go along with them.
Including Barack "I won" Obama?
He did win. You think he should act like he lost? Republicans were in the minority and pretty much demanding to be allowed to write the entire legislation. I would have done much more than told them I won.
Pelosi shot down every single GOP proposal on the 2010 budget. Every single one/
If that's true, I'll give you that one. However, that does not necessarily equate to pandering to the crazy base.
[Democrats] simply pander to the unions and corrupt companies like GE.
Politicians, partisan or not, pander to businesses because they give politicians money. Same goes for Dems with the unions. But has there been any radical left-wing legislation that came out of it? None that I can see.
Remember the shrieking over eeevil Bushitler and Enron?
Yes. I also didn't see any elected Dems pander to the shriekers.
>>>There is no equivalence between the two parties in that respect.<<<
You are right, Dems pander to the hard-left and Repubs pander to the hard-right. So they are not the same
Dude, look up the word "equivalence." My meaning was that Dems do not pander to the hard-left. If anything, they ignore them.
My simple point was that, I am sick of partisans - left and right-wing.
Hey, you'll get no argument from me there. I may be far left in my political beliefs but I recognize the value of centrist policies. Unfortunately this country only has two parties: Center right (Dems) and far right (Repubs). On a global scale, Obama is a moderate conservative. There's no way the Dems would ever be elected if they pandered to their crazy base. It's too bad it's not the same for Republicans.