The Supreme Court refused to take up the case recently, though the litigation will drag on for quite a while. be Freepers, of course, are itching for a fight.
MarineBrat doesn't much seem to care about the issues involved at all, actually:
I’m on the verge of going postal on these filthy collectivist scum. If that cross needs bodies in front of it, I’m there.forgotten man has vissions of mass protest dancing in his head:
It is going to be one ugly scene when the bulldozers come to tear that cross down. There will be thousands of people there.kingu even has a great plan for civil disobedience, just needing an exponentially large army:
As they tear down one cross, those thousand people build two more. And as they tear down those crosses, those thousand build four more. And as they tear down the four, eight appear.Talisker, though, knows that Obama's America will just murder all the protesters:
And so it will be negotiated that one will remain...
Same thing happened in Poland at a place called Nowa Huta. Commies resisted the Catholics erecting a cross where they hoped to build a church. Tore it down at least once. A cheeky fellow named Karol Wojtyla gathered thousands of people to face them off. Didn't hurt that most of the police were Catholics, too. Peaceful resistance! Use creativity!; Digger admires Muslim fundamentalists for their killer instinct:
That's different - there are things murderous soviet communists won't do.
There are no limits to what murderous liberals will do.
Come on all of you christians. Hire some Muzzies & I doubt the first guy & his bulldozzer would take that step as unlikey to see his family that night. Not the christians. The 1000 will passively stand around all the while everything they stand for become rubbish. Now you understand why America is toast.Lurker wants to make it personal for the plaintiff:
It occurs to me that Mr. Trunk has an address.17th Miss Regt's plan seems like a winner:
If he is offended by a cross we can show our support and concern for his feelings by destroying a cross on his front lawn. How to do it? Hmmmm. How about burning?
A Romney aide references his health care bill and the right freaks out. The thread is just getting started but MarkL gives us a taste of where this might be headed with "If this really happened, then it's obvious that the Romney campaign really doesn't want to win, and a second Obama term has already been set in stone by 'the powers that be.' That the end of the USA has already occurred, and we just haven't noticed it yet."
ReplyDeleteErick Erickson over at Red State declared it "the moment Mitt Romney lost the election".
Deletehttps://twitter.com/EWErickson/statuses/233242146189225984
Romneycare has worked, it’s has benefited both the state and its residents. However the willful ignorance of the GOP prevents Romney from being able to boast one of his largest legislative victories. Hilarious.
Delete...could he be back?
DeleteAre you the guy that was practicing trolling? You've really stepped up your game, good on ya!
DeleteAre you that guy who molests children ?
DeleteNo, that's Jim Robinson
DeleteWhoa! What a comeback! Really, bravo! Wow, you really showed me! I think I'll put on a burqa and bite my nails worrying about climate change! Your incredible wit has made me forget all about those silly Conservative concepts like Limited Constitutional Government. In your honor, I'm going to grow an ovary. Just for you.
DeleteSo tell me limp dick, just how often were you bullied in high school ?
I'm probably the only one, but I don't really mind crosses in public places, or "In God We Trust" on our money or whatever. It doesn't affect anybody so I'd rather not have a fight. If you complain about something like that, it just shows you're weak and whiny. Save the fights for stuff that actually affects policy.
ReplyDeleteI'm weakly against public displays of Religion because Atheists are people too, and it is kinda a thumb in their eye.
DeleteBut yeah, the zealots who actually get the job done aren't really doing their side any favors. Reminds me somewhat of anti-gun control people and the gun nutters, though on a smaller scale.
Also the Ninth Circuit Judge said "... and the history of religious discrimination in La Jolla." when ruling against it. Sikhs are people too.
DeleteIn this case I'm against it. Tax payers are on the hook to maintain and repair the symbol of one religion. I'm with you on "God" on money and the pledge. It's annoying but not worth the fight because of the ambiguity of "God." As an atheist, money is my "God" and I use my God to buy babies to eat for dinner.
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DeleteDon't you believe in the Constitution? 'Cause the Bill of rights trumps majority rule, dude.
@IHCFL
ReplyDelete1. Sorry that the Supreme Court disagrees with your learned analysis of the history and text of the Constitution. The drafting history of the Establishment Clause makes the intent pretty clear.
2. Gun laws are Constitutional to the same extent that speech laws are. Just as you cannot hold a parade or concert at midnight in a residential neighborhood, you can't own machine guns or bazookas. And just as you need to get a parade permit, you need to get a gun registration in most places.
3. One of the few areas Congress has total power is the power of the purse. Congress is allowed to spend money however it wants, via the 'general welfare clause.'
Anyhow, those are the long accepted Constitutional interpretations. They may change, but likely gradually.
Hope I cleared some things up for ya!
So Dred Scott means only you can properly interpret the Constitution. Gotcha.
ReplyDeleteEvery single right in the Constitution has exceptions. Human beings cannot exit in a world of absolutes. People shouting FIRE in theaters, criminals destroying evidence before warrants can issue, human sacrifice under Free Exercise...
Remember, the Founders thought the Alien and Sedition Acts were cool, so we've actually made a lot of progress since then.
I have no idea where you get the only money under enumerated powers deal. Certainly not the text or the Founders. Indeed, spending for the general welfare is an enumerated power.
Dude, the government CAN spend federal money however it wants, including to buy shit for people or other things that conservatives don't like. The Constitution doesn't say that Medicare or Food Stamps HAVE to exist, but that they CAN. If you don't like it you can vote for congressmen who won't use federal money that way.
ReplyDeleteNothing you've said so far has convinced any of us that you know jack shit about the US Constitution beyond what Rush Limbaugh has told you to believe about it.
DeleteHit the nail on the head, didn't I?
Delete"Constitutionally illiterate" == "He doesn't agree with me".
ReplyDeleteHe's not the one making the argument that the Dred Scott decision invalidates all other Supreme Court decisions.
ReplyDeleteOh yes, because either all SCOTUS decisions were correct or they're all wrong. Absolutely no other choice, right?
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