Thursday, April 17, 2014

The death of charity

Freepers do their best to explain how Dickensian England was awesome, because it didn't have any soul-sucking welfare to make the poor rich.

lurk doesn't remember anyone who starved before 1950.
Way back then, in the straw man day the author kicks over, people worked. And if they chose not to work, they got hungry. And if working people needed a little help for any reason, there was the family, and the neighbors, and the church. And the government didn’t take half of every working man’s paycheck.
Jim Robinson details the awesome life of being unemployed:
Safety net? A warm comfy home, utilities, reliable car, a tv, a phone, an internet account, clothing, medical care and plentiful food are all basic human rights. All Americans and undocumented residents are entitled to them whether they educate themselves, work for a living, steal for a living or just decide to sponge off the work of others. It’s guaranteed by the constitution. Right?
Some Fat Guy in L.A. explains that Democrats are the problem:
Yeah - problem is that charitable people are more than happy to give a hand up to people that need it. However, they are not as kind to those who just want a handout (a k a the rat base).
driftless2 straight up blames 'the black black underclass' for all our woes.
The elephant in the room (and not Republicans) is the fact that about ten percent of the population is a huge drag on everybody else. The black underclass by itself costs anywhere from half a trillion to one trillion dollars through welfare dependency and their staggering amount of crime. That segment, the black underclass, is about five percent of the population and growing. Charity could handle most of the destitute without the gigantic, money-sucking segment of the population that can’t do for themselves and expects to be gratified by the American tax-payer.
The Unknown Republican fondly remembers the day churches could blackmail you into morality.
I am committed to the belief that government charity (welfare state) contributes to the degradation of society. What little benefit it may achieve in supplementing private charity, it loses by allowing people to live anonymous and immoral lives. When charity was handled by churches, people were more interested in community, and when you are involved in community, you are more apt to be watchful of your behavior.
liberals are why yawningotter feels justified not giving to charity:
Not only do handouts create an underclass of exploiters, it creates hostility between them and the producers, and that hostility spills over to those who really need charitable help. God loves a cheerful giver, and nobody in their right mind is cheerful when they have to pay taxes to support welfare that sends less than one third of its budget to the poor, and wastes much of that on fraud and waste, over more direct charitable giving.
Brooklyn Attitude knows it's all moochers now.
The problem is the author argues in favor assistance for all who want it. In the past, welfare was shame, it came with harsh restrictions and rules. Today they beg you to take it and the shame is gone. People live for generations on the dole and are happy to do it. They do not get subsistence benefits, people learn to live comfortably or at least not uncomfortably. There is no incentive to get off, so the ranks of the useless, lazy moochers increases. Such a system cannot be sustained, but that doesnt matter as long as leftists get to feel good about themselves.

14 comments:

  1. When was the last time the good folks at Free Republic got together to support a charitable cause?

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    1. Don't forget, Freepathons don't count

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    2. Getting together - not so much, apart from the people who attend the Memorial Shoot each year (always wanted to go, never had the chance).

      I recall the odd toy drive, certainly recall a few times when various Veterans causes were aggressively pushed, but it's more of an individual thing than a group thing in the main. There are some truly wonderful people there who give money (when they can) and time unstintingly to all sorts of charities. It just isn't organized.

      Speaking of which .... please check out pinupsforvets.com. A very worthy cause by a very wonderful woman (and the calendars and visits are HUGELY appreciated! ). :P I interviewed her a couple years back for a website since gone dark. Liked her immensely and shill her at every opportunity.

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    3. So, the answer is, Freepers do almost no charity work.

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    4. No - the answer is Free Republic does no charity work. Freepers, as individuals, do - and a lot more than you might think.
      They'll sometimes get together on FR to raise awareness or organize something, though it seems to be frowned on by JimRob. Guess he hates to see a dollar he can't grab go drifting by.

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    5. So, when was the last time that happened? That was the question, wasn't it?

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    6. I should know? I got the Zot 2 years ago. Since JimRob has clamped down on the flying of the almighty dollars away from him, I won't name names - but there are three with active ping lists to charity (still) who were active as of last week.

      I retreaded.

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  2. JimRob loves threads like that one.
    The only lazy deadbeats that deserve to get free money from freepers are the Robinsons.

    On that subject, the 'thon is sucking worse than ever before.

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    1. Less money for the deadbeats means more Medicare money for JimRob himself!

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    2. Thought he had VA benefits?

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  3. OT, but I wish the person running this Tumblr would keep this updated
    http://horribleyahoonewscomments.tumblr.com

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    1. There was a thread at Free Republic today referencing this web site.

      http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/

      It's worth a look just for the top of the page.

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    2. Wow. It's like Photoshop threw up all over the top of that page.

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    3. Yeah, that is pretty much every conspiracy-minded show website ever but ever crazier. Thanks for the link.

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