Thursday, December 1, 2016

Freepers are against changing Medicare

Trump seems to be signalling he's into the Republican dream of dismantling Medicare. It's on his website, it's the main agenda of his proposed HHS secretary.

And it's something Freepers are very much against. Trump's campaign more or less decoupled the pro business establishment from the inchoate anger base. Freepers hate the government, but they don't want small government.

This is gonna be a helluva lift for Trump and the GOP.

Dr. Sivana wonders where all Trump's campaign promises went:
Trump didn’t run on it. He ran on a lot of stuff, some of it big government stuff I am not big on, but I think he should work on the numerous promises he made. No free riders. Wait till 2020 for that stuff.
JonPreston with the usual Freeper go-to easy fix:
Kick illegals off Medicaid and we’ll be fine.
Whenifhow just makes up some comforting facts:
It seems like obamacare is taking money from Medicare so if obamacare is repealed the depletion of funds will stop.
M. Thatcher blames Paul Ryan:
Ryan is trying to clog the schedule to derail Trump.
rocksblues is sure Trump can't really want this!
So Ryan pushes for this, Trump vetoes it and Ryan cannot overturn the veto.
WilliamIII agrees about the veto, and his faith in Trump may be wavering:
If they start pushing this, Trump needs to publicly promise a veto

Trump promised that repealing and replacing Obamacare would be job 1. I haven’t heard anything in recent days - are they going to move forward or chicken out?
catnipman..."but what about ME?!"
Just in time for my retirement.I paid into it...since I was 16...and now they’re gonna shut the door on me.

Same here. Worked myself nearly to death and now beset with large numbers of health problems as a consequence, and that pissant P.o.S. Paul Ryan wants to fuch me.
pieceofthepuzzle has a plan, based on the premise that Medicare is as inefficient as healthcare generally:
The first thing I would do with Medicare is mandate that no more than 12% of every health care dollar spent by Medicare can go to administrative costs - with cheating punishable by mandatory imprisonment for at least 2 years. Administrative costs are over 26% in US healthcare, as opposed to 12-15% in Europe and elsewhere.

By doing this, you wouldn't have to specifically address how to decrease administrative costs. The administrators whose salaries are paid out of that money would sort themselves out - likely by decreasing the number of administrators markedly. This would be an automatic cost reduction of at least 10-15% across the board. Insurance companies would follow suit. It would streamline medicine, and put more of the money where it's supposed to be, in the direct care of patients.
Medicare overhead is like 2-3% chief.

Then Rockingham comes out in favor of administrative costs:
The logic of trying to gain efficiency by squeezing administrative costs is one of the arguments for the government running health care. The supposed gains in efficiency are illusory though because, when the malign effects of unnecessary regulations are factored out, many administrative costs are in fact associated with the quality of patient care.
The Westerner fondly remembers when we didn't worry about the poor. Also GOLD!
To end all government involvement in medicine, it has been proposed that there be a cut-off age where those younger will not receive Medicare. But they will retain their own money to save for old age health costs if they so choose. 
This was the way our free country worked before the rise of the Welfare State. I remember because I was there. My father gave me $200 for emergency room treatment should it ever be necessary when I left home at 18. Imagine a world like that before Medicare and the end of the Gold Standard?

30 comments:

  1. OK. To make up for ya'lls donkey-butt
    behavior & attitudes about our whole
    state DESERVING to burn up because it did
    not go for what HILLARY was selling;
    ya'll need to go to DOLLYWOOD'S DONATION
    WEBSITE and donate even five or ten
    dollars to the SMOKY MOUNTAIN WILDFIRE
    RELIEF. Dolly Parton (Dean) is donating
    huge amounts of money from her many
    business interests in Tennessee. All the
    people who have lost their homes in the
    fires will receive $1000 a month relief
    until they get on their feet. - Dolly's
    theme park escaped the fire; also the
    big aquarium in Gatlinburg, TN escaped &
    no animals or aquatic life has been
    injured by the fire. People living in
    the area are taking the bald eagles into
    their homes from the affected area.

    DOLLY has done a lot of good for her
    state and country. She met her husband,
    Carl Dean when she first came to
    Nashville to sing on the radio. Dolly
    was 18 & just getting started. Carl has
    never attended one of her performances
    & has his own jobs & business interests
    & has never depended on Dolly to make a
    living for him. (He originally purchased
    the land in Spring Hill, TN on which the
    big automobile plant now stands and is a
    contractor and builder in Nashville &
    surrounding areas. Dolly has been able
    to give jobs to her large extended family
    (12 brothers & sisters). So, they run
    Dollywood & work at other jobs for her.
    Dolly & Carl have been married for over
    50 yrs. The Smoky Mountains are still
    "home" to Dolly.

    Yep. Ya'll NEED to help out the people
    of Gatlinburg & Pigeon Forge. A few
    folks have died in these fires; and I
    don't want to hear ya'll mouthing off
    about how they "deserve" it for not
    swallowing "global warming" hook, line
    & sinker.

    OK. Well, I am upset. - GIT BIZZY!

    TWINKIE KING

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    1. You're a sick pervert Twinkie. Disgusting.

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    2. "Blah-Blah-Blah-Blah - TWINKIE -
      Blah-Blah . . . . . . . . . . . ."

      That's all I hear, Anonymous. I'm
      like a nice doggie in that regard.

      Now, cats are different. When they
      read your rants this is how it
      sounds to them . . . . . . . . .
      " . . . . . ."
      They hear NOTHING. BOO-BOO says,
      "Kiss my little Cattbutt, Anonymous!"

      SEND YOUR DONATION TO DOLLY PARTON
      FOR THE WILDFIRE VICTIMS OF THE
      SMOKIES. Then eat lunch, take a nap,
      and face facts!

      DEPLORABLE TWINKIE KING

      P.S. Listening to RUSH right now &
      he is SPEAKING TRUTH. Hussein Obama
      has taken you DEMOCRATS down the
      old crapper, then reached up and
      flushed it single-handedly, then
      flushed it TWICE for good measure.

      Call me a "pervert" if you wish;
      just be sure to send your donation
      to Dolly for her fund for the
      SMOKY MOUNTAIN folks who have lost
      everything in the fires. JUST DO
      IT!! TWINKIE MEANS IT!!!!

      TWINKIE KING

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    3. Twinkie is a pervert.

      Creep!

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  2. Man, I love being right. But at the same time I hate it. Trump doesn't care about them. He has effectively turned into the GOPe that they hate so much. I'll be surprised if they succeed in repealing Obamacare, but even if they do, lots of Freepers may get thrown off their health care plans.

    That's the problem with the right (the problem with the left is they don't vote). They have no empathy. If something doesn't directly affect them, they can't see how it could be beneficial. A prime example of this was on last night's Daily Show where Trevor Noah interviewed Tomi Lahren. It was obvious that she was a privileged, sheltered, spoiled white millennial who rants about things she doesn't understand. When Trevor asked her how Colin Kaepernick should have protested, her answer was basically that he shouldn't have protested because this is such a great country, why would you protest anything? She had zero clue and zero self-awareness. Much like most of the right.

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    1. People typically vote against their best interest.

      In the case of Freepers, they not only vote against it, they scream about how their best interest isn't even their interest and go on to blame liberals, Muslims, illegals and blacks.

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    2. I'm OK with TRUMP'S choices so far.
      He is not even in office yet and is
      already off & running. I'm old and
      I've learned that you make do with
      what you have and shut up about it.

      Of course, no human being was ever
      going to please EVERYONE EVERY TIME!

      I grew up in the 1940's learning to
      make do with what I had. Beans,
      potatoes & cornbread one day; taters,
      beans & cornbread the next & an
      8 oz. cold drink & a candy bar every
      now and then.

      The government owes ME zilch. . and
      anyone who thinks "it" does will be
      sadly disappointed.

      Kaepernick is a WONKER HYPOCRITE. He
      was a Negro kid adopted by whitey
      parents a long time ago and given his
      heart's desire. . catapulted into a
      salary of MILLIONS of dollars in this
      GREAT country.

      I don't care for football anyway. His
      antics are sinking pro football; and
      that's OK by me as long as their
      sponsoring companies are agreeable.
      Of course, when the bottom line of
      these sponsors starts tanking; the
      snot-nosed Kaepernick will either get
      with the program or scoot. Matters
      not to me.

      That flag means a lot to me; the red
      stripes stand for the American blood
      shed on foreign soil for us, for the
      soldiers who are still in those graves
      in Flanders' Field. . most still very
      young boys who will NEVER see another
      birthday since THEY died fighting for
      "Colon's" privilege to spit on what
      THEY DIED for. "Colon" can "be" Muslim; that's his "freedom" as long
      as he doesn't move on to radicaliza-
      tion and "trying" to dispatch us
      red-blooded kids of those boys who
      DIED under that flag.

      Self-awareness translates to a one
      word description of all you "liberals"
      and that word is SELFISHNESS pure &
      simple.

      GROW UP!

      TWINKIE

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    3. Fuck the flag. The flag is just a symbol. And as George Carlin said, I leave the symbols to the symbol-minded.

      I also don't give a crap what Kaepernick does or doesn't do. His actions don't affect me one way or the other. But the right insists on being whiny crybabies about it. And my point was that they lack empathy to see why he might be doing it.

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    4. You guys will enjoy what I have coming up at 4:30!

      Post-Trump, Freepers are not as enthusiastic flag-wavers as they were like last year. They seem to have some other nationalist totem to worship these days...

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    5. TOTEMS are nothing but SUPERSTITIONS!
      I say that as an Injun. - Years ago,
      we visited a Cherokee Christian
      Church out in Oklahoma. We asked
      them to take us to a POW-WOW; but
      they weren't enthused about it, said
      it was nothing but SUPERSTITION.

      I asked some rude fake Injun guy the
      meaning of something in the dance.
      He spouted off that YOU wouldn't
      understand. JERK. If he'd cut me, I
      bet I would bleed MORE Cherokee than
      he would!

      Ya'll need to wash ya'lls nasty
      mouths out with DR. BRONNERS MAGIC
      LIQUID SOAP and quit that obscene
      talking & writing. Or just go on
      over to DEMOCRAT UNDERGROUND where
      a taxpayer-paid education has been
      totally wasted on these potty mouth
      Beavis's and Butthead's.

      NO. Kapernick is a SNOWFLAKE
      CRYBABY feigning empathy with other
      big old CRYBABIES while spending his
      millions in foorball money on fast
      cars and women & laughing at all you
      "fans" for being snookered by the
      likes of him.

      SEND DOLLY A DONATION TO HELP THE
      "RICH" folks in Gatlinburg who have
      lost their homes to the fires. You
      all have PayPal; so just do it and
      quit bashing poor TWINKIE.

      HURRY! Ya'll are melting fast!!

      TWINKIE KING

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    6. Twinkie!

      You're disgusting.

      GO AWAY YOU PERVERT!!!!

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    7. Ya'll are LYING like DOGS about
      TWINKIE and ya'll KNOW IT!!

      TWINKIE will be looking for YOU ALL
      to report that you have donated to
      DOLLY PARTON'S DOLLYWOOD FUND FOR
      VICTIMS OF THE FIRE. You can do it
      toot sweet on PAYPAL. I know ya'll
      have PAYPAL accounts and really do
      dearly want to DONATE!

      We did ours last night. Now, TWINKIE
      expects ya'll to report in that YOU
      have donated!! I mean it!!!!

      I MEAN IT!! I am going to put a
      STINK-EYE SPELL on ya'll if you don't
      HOP TO IT AND DO WHAT YOU KNOW IS
      RIGHT TO DO!!!! If you do not,
      Dolly will haunt ya'll in your
      NIGHTMARES TONIGHT; and she can do
      it, too!!

      We did ours last night and FULLY
      EXPECT GREAT THINGS OUT OF YA'LL,
      TOO!!!!!

      GO THERE IMMEDIATELY TO DOLLY'S
      SITE AND DO PAYPAL AND GIT IT OVER
      WITH!!!! REPORT IN!!!

      TWINKIE KING

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  3. Electoral College Voters Form Group To Block Trump Presidency

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3500278/posts#comment

    "Put these traitors to America in prison.

    It wouldn’t break my heart if they were in body bags.

    5 posted on 12/1/2016, 11:33:47 AM by boycott (S)"

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  4. Well? . . . YOU'VE HAD TIME!!!!

    TWINKIE KING

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    1. POOPIE KING is only upset because the fires are burning in white parts of the state. If they were burning in Memphis or other black areas, she (and all other freepers) would be crying "Its the wrath of GOD for not voting for TRUMP !!!!"

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    2. Twinkie, you're disgusting!

      Shame on you!

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    3. Negro people are welcome to live in
      the mountains. I'm not stopping them.
      Memphis IS a cesspool; but that is
      not my fault. Years and years of
      welfare; and nothing but a monster
      to show for it.

      LBJ the cynic joked that the nigs
      would be voting for Democrats from
      then on what with all the welfare
      he had them chained to in his "War
      on Poverty"! Finally, some blacks
      ARE finally getting wise to the
      cynical Democrat method of "use them
      then lose them". They're sick of it.
      IF having "the first black POTUS"
      refused to fix it - then who will?

      DONALD J. TRUMP WILL SURE TRY AT
      LEAST; and he may just succeed -
      over ya'lls dead bodies to be sure
      IF HITLER-Y deigns to "allow" him
      to not be ARKANCIDED by some of her
      & Bill's minions.

      Ya'll are the ones who are disgusting
      and totally unruly!!!

      GO NOW AND MAKE A DONATION ON PAYPAL
      AND SHUT UP YA'LLS PIEHOLES!

      I mean it. DOLLY can haunt ya'lls
      NIGHTMARES. Her mother had the power
      to do that; and I suspect DOLLY also
      has.

      YA'LL ARE THE DISGUSTING ONES FOR
      HOGGING ALL YA'LLS PAYPAL MONEY TO
      BUY JUNK ON THE NET THAT YA'LL DON'T
      EVEN NEED!!!!

      ALL YA'LL CAN DO IS VILLIFY TWINKIE
      AND BASH HER ATTEMPTS TO GET YA'LL
      TO DO THE RIGHT THING!

      Go to PAYPAL . . NOW!! THIS INSTANT
      AND DONATE. (You don't know that a
      lot of those Gatlinburg people didn't
      vote for HITLER-Y!) You just simply
      ASS-UME THINGS OFF THE TOP OF YOUR
      POINTY HEADS!

      I mean it! PAYPAL NOW! If you fall
      asleep without donating, do not be
      surprised if DOLLY PARTON visits you
      in your nightmares tonight!!

      FINAL WARNING!!!

      TWINKIE DEPLORABLE KING

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    4. Don't hold your breath on us donating Twinkle, or maybe you should. It would stop you from being a blow hard for a few moments.

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    5. PAYPAL! NOW!! JUST DO IT!!
      YA'LL KNOW THAT YOU ARE GOING TO
      DONATE; EVEN IF YOU LIE ABOUT IT!!

      IT'S CALLED PRIDE and it goeth before
      a fall! - One of you last night had
      a horrible NIGHTMARE; AT THE END OF
      IT, you were FALLING, FALLING,
      FALLING. This time, you woke up
      before you hit the ground; but next
      time TWINKIE cannot guarantee a
      thing.

      Listen, John Fraidycat! It is YOU
      who are the blowhard; but I don't
      care as long as you donate to the
      SMOKY MOUNTAIN WILDFIRES FUND. I
      am sure that YOU have a PAYPAL
      ACCOUNT set up for all the junk you
      buy online. :o(

      And, furthermore, ay-nony-nony is
      telling big fat lies about TWINKIE
      and FANG, misrepresenting what
      TWINKIE posted on Free Republic.

      HOP TO IT AND DONATE TO THE FIRE
      FUND. - GIT A JOB AND GO TO WORK!
      Do worthwhile things and move out
      of your parents' basements. Your
      mothers don't feel like cooking for
      ya'll much any more! Wash your own
      clothes and quit wearing dirty denim
      jeans and accusing TWINKIE of
      wearing dirty muu-muu's when it is
      ya'll pots calling the TWINKIE
      KETTLE "black".

      TARGET PRACTICE this morning! My
      aim is improving. FANG kills the
      squirrels that steal his pears; he
      is tired of not getting the pears
      from the pear tree that he planted
      and tended all those years.

      YA'LL are getting on my nerves!
      Is HITLER-Y still "counting" the
      hanging "chads" on ballots hoping
      to ram her rear end down our throats?

      ENOUGH CLINTONS and their crooked
      antics!

      Yes. There'll be a woman President
      some day; and if you don't quit
      vilifying and degrading good people,
      SARAH PALIN just may be the POTUS
      that RONALDUS MAGNUS prevails on the
      Lord to send to RULE YOUR BUTT!!

      I AM TIRED OF YA'LL ridiculing me!
      I SLEPT GOOD LAST NIGHT; but woke up
      early to see the news from overnight.

      YA'LL post wormy little blurbs &
      think you've written the latest
      best seller.

      GO DONATE so DOLLY won't give you
      nightmares!

      Ooh! Is that a coyote I hear down
      in the river bottom? They better not
      come up here to steal DUB'S food!!
      THEY CAN'T HELP HOWLING I reckon,
      any more than ya'll can help being
      poor little SNOWFLAKES!

      "DEPLORABLE" TWINKIE KING

      P.S. PAYPAL. DONATE.

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  5. I don't understand why the posts from this boring, repetitive troll aren't deleted as soon as they're made. I used to really enjoy reading the comments here, but I don't bother much anymore because I know it will mostly be endless unfunny columns of text by this sleep-inducing fucktard, and people feeding him/her/it by responding.

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    1. It's not my blog, so it's not my place to say, but I wouldn't be disappointed if an IP address were found...and blocked. The troll act has really gotten stale.

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    2. No argument. I'm not sure of how or whether it's possible, but I shall look into it this weekend.

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    3. I hereby declare my STINKIE abstinence pledge to FreeperMadness!

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    4. Let them read but not comment. They'll lose their minds.

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