Freeper ctdonath2, who is Freep enough to show up on this blog a couple of times, found that with the State and Federal subsidies and tax credits, he could buy a Nissan Leaf for just about zero money.
Having a sense of humor, he posted this on the site. As expected, Freepers were pretty nonjudgemental to one of their own tribe for the most part.
For the most part.
Some Freepers see this avoidance of taxes as insufficiently doctrinaire. As their fellows point out how their argument fails, they get increasingly, amusingly, irrational.
ctdonath2 points out that he also pays taxes:
You didn’t subsidize my ride, I did. I’ve payed WAY more than $12500 in unfair taxes, now I get some back.Which taxes are the unfair taxes?
Then we're getting a mini-spotlight of Democrat_media, who is obsessed with being Freeper than thou. Starting with this bit of hyperbole:
you’re selling outDemocrat_media moves on to lay out the logic of why buying an electric car means you're riding with Satan:
you’re being bribed by government to further their green(communist) global warming agenda. global warming is a hoax
you are selling your soul to the Devil
government is the devil. yes or no? yesDemocrat_media finds the original poster a clear Democrat environmentalist, due to insufficient of spite:
and they are bribing him yes or no. yes
government is evil , unaccountable, inefficient,corrupt yes or no? Yes
Below I quoted what you posted. that proves you are a socialist/marixist/democrat environmentalist. you don’t fool . who is destroying the planet, the evil oil and coal companies? here’s a clue global warming is a hoax. nothing wrong with coal and oil which is why you democrats had to INVENT a FAKE crisis like man made global warming to demonize oil , coal and capitalism and so enslave us and grow socialismDemocrat_media also pays the government much more than he legally needs to:
“As for “evil environmentalism”, being conservative doesn’t mean deliberately trashing the planet. I’m all for being early adopter in lots of high technologies
I don’t take any tax deductions. and i don’t put up fake threads to shill for government/socialism on a conservative site like YOU do (”oh yes less all be good little sheep and take the great bounty that the gov is giving” ). that’s all bs. why do you choose to post this on a conservative site ?Democrat_media thinks smog is a hoax:
i will also pay the liberty tax instead of signing up for obamacare
go sign up for your free obamacare, free gov housing ( the projects) enjoy being a slave
I am not a threat to you. i’m a little individual. the government , the IRS, that is a threat to you
you are a democrat/liberal/socialist shilling for YOUR God , government/socialism
your attitude enables the growth of this monster called government that is devouring us. are you liberals proud?
what smog or pollution you liberal? what about if pollution or smog were such a real problem then why did you democrats have to fabricate the global warming hoax to demonize coal and oil don't you understand?ctdonath2 finally has this quite witty riposte:
government is more of a problem than any smog or pollution .. your government already banned lightbulbs for this global warming hoax and obama’s EPA is oppressing businesses with ridiculous mileage requirements for trucks and cars
have fun when democrats put you on an obamacare waiting list or you face their obamacare death panel .you enabled that. it all started with the lament “we have to do something about pollution, or global warming, or the no-healthcare crisis, or xyz, any fake crisis” that something is more government laws (more government) and an oppressive EPA
but you don't agree that gov is more of a problem than pollution so you are a socialist/statist. socialism doesn't work stop shilling for it you socialist
you are going to plug into their grid. you love being part of the collectivist hive don't you.Responsibility2nd thinks he has paid all taxes:
I'll continue to use gas guzzlers as long as they allow me to.i’ll also stock up on incandescent light bulbs since your government banned them. i bet that burns you up huh liberal that i”m such a “polluter” .what you want me thrown in prison or what?
i see an an intense push by the liberals/democrats for electric cars and other green crap. I see companies bow down to the liberals by pretending to be so green. so I wonder what other ulterior motives the liberals have with all the pushing of electric cars and green crap . i won't follow their wishes. you are and you attack me on ridiculous bs because i point that out. all we can do is protest peacefully now . and that is what I'm doing by not going along with their green crap. and plus i prefer incandescents and gas guzzlers. is that ok with you or do you want me thrown in prison, liberal?
“you are going to plug into their grid.”
So unplug your computer already. Please.
Good for you.Quite a few Freepers posted about the Leaf's lack of reliability. When the conversation turns to hybrids as well, Rodd OB and some other Freepers admit they've been bribed by the Devil for a long time:
Now come over here and give me a ride to the grocery store. If you’re gonna use my money to buy your car, then at the very least - give me a ride.
Oh. Be sure you have the number of several tow trucks on speed dial. You’re gonna need ‘em if you drive more than 50 miles.
my folks have a hybrid camry, it doesn’t improve mileage, all it does it add weight and eat up a lot of trunk space. My parents are already looking to just convert it back to full gas engine driven.TheDon is not a deep thinker:
I told them before they bought it that it’s all hyped and they wouldn’t listen.
Something must be wrong with that Camry. I have a 2012 Camry hybrid LE that has averaged over 46.3 mpg since purchasing new in March 2012.
I am very satisfied with this car. Zero problems so far.
It’s an Obamacar. lolandyk has a cheery sort of nihilism:
FWIW, I don’t blame you one bit. I personally think tax credits are pretty evil, but hey, we’ll never get rid of them, so why not join in and help destroy the system ahead of schedule?miss marmelstein seems a titch envious:
What difference, at this point, does it make?
And now you can brag here at FR!Fledermaus knows the real conspiracy is coming:
Wait until they start taxing you by the mile instead of through the gas tax. And believe me, they will.Future Snake Eater:
I wouldn't pay too much attention to the peanut gallery. They will slam you for "taking their money" while they all claim various deductions & credits on their state & local taxes for dependents, home ownership, charity, etc. Hypocrites.It's fun to post these sorts of "Freep ain't what is used to be" comments, but given the clientele, I'll bet people have been saying that from the beginning. Though I have been seeing more and more of it in the past year...
You took the words right out of my mouth. Sadly this is about the level of discourse I've seen on this site for a few years now.