"I don’t know. Sometimes you have to hit rock bottom," McCarthy responded.
And the question is whether Paul Ryan will reluctantly supply that rock bottom.
Well, it doesn't look like it from here!
First, though the Freedom Caucus has some defections that seem to like him, it still remains crazy enough that Ryan wouldn't be unanimous.
Second, Ryan seems to want to remake the speaker into less a fundraiser and more an RNC policy evangelist. This would mean he has no leverage over his party, which leads to
Third, Ryan doesn't want the motion to vacate the chair breathing down his neck from now until a new Speaker in January 2017. That pisses off the Tea Party by taking away the largest gun in their arsenal, but it's like they don't have other ways to make Ryan's life awful.
But most importantly for this blog, you've got head Freeper jimrob posting "Ryan = treasonous amnesty pimp" and "Ryan = traitor". Some Freepers want to give him a chance, but I expect they will give him exactly zero breathing room.
So really, it's wins all the way down for us!
redgolum just assumes there's a conspiracy to elect Ryan speaker:
There is a civil war going on in the GOP. Ryan is demanding that everyone surrender.Gaffer kinda rambles on about spending being bad, and then decides that only the Freedom Caucus is really representing voters:
But you don’t make demands from a position of weakness. Who or what does he know?
Whether this politburo bureaucrat wrote his speech in a deer stand or on the toilet taking a dump where the rest of his ideas belong makes no difference in the obedience he is demanding.Adder agrees - conservatives are the only 'We the people' that matter:
“I’ll deign to take the Speakership if you’ll capitulate and accede to my agenda - IOW, NO DISSENT.”
Ryan is purported to be a budget expert because he can talk bureaucratese for spending and funding. They’ve been spending and financing it off our backs for a hundred years - other peoples’ money, What Me Worry?
Capitulate is another word he’s familiar with - very. His Capitulation Budget in tribute to Obama is the prime example.
Mr. Ryan, you are a losing also-ran and your ‘conditions’ are completely out of line. Instead of making your potential voters meet your demands, start thinking about how these 40 or so rebels got that way and who ELECTED them in the first place.
I wouldn’t vote for you for dog catcher.
I do not care about his conditions about traveling or working weekends. But he is NOT going to push amnesty and budgets that exacerbate our debt problems with a “Support me or else” bs attitude.Mamzelle is as catty as ever:
Eff him. Conservatives need to stand tough and make THEIR ideas part of the solution.
We the people outside the beltway expect and demand it.
Breathtaking. What an entitled b$tch. I’d like to see him lose his Wisconsin seat, and have to compete for work amongst the illegals. And his spoiled brat wife, tooMichaelCorleone remembers who ended the shutdown!
Did Ryan consult with his pal Patty Murray before making his ‘demands’?xzins has figured out who Ryan really hates:
Ryan is a non-starter.CCGuy's logic is that because Ryan is the GOP's last hope for GOP consensus, that proves he's bad:
He loves illegals and hates veterans: active, retired, and honorably discharged.
The fact he feels he can demand conditions tells me he is completely unqualified for the job and would be yet another GOPe disaster.Zathras doesn't get why the Democrats have room on their left flank yet the GOP has none on their right...
Those SOBs feel they can demand things of Republicans and set conditions, yet they completely fold and surrender when dealing with Democrats.
Go to H*ll Paul Ryan!!!
If being Speaker means not be conservative, explain why Pelosi continually pushed further and further left.ModelBreaker just wants to burn the whole thing down, for the sake of 'clarity.'
You can’t can you.
The REAL reason the left wants a moderate is the moderates in congress have so many RATS working for them, they know EXACTLY what the GOP-e plan is way before it goes public.
I think the Freedom Caucus should stand firm. They don’t have the juice to elect a conservative. But they do have the power to force the RINO’s to be elected only by relying on D support. That would be a clarifying vote.DoodleDawg is still hear dishing out unpalatable facts:
My question is, what happened to the third candidate? Daniel Webster.Yosemitest has the best answer:
My guess would be nobody outside of the Freedom Caucus would support him.
"AMNESTY SUPPORTER" Ryan can support the REAL Conservative, Louis Buller "Louie" Gohmert, Jr., for Speaker !hondact200 feels betrayed by Ryan and his Alinsky ways:
Paul Ryan just another name for Obama Butt kisser and a user of Alinsky’s tactics. Come now where are the Wisconsin Voters and are the ticked how this POS has used the tea party connections and than shoves their goals down heir throats in spite and becomes ye another DC political insider. Wisconsin needs to recall this POS!lodi90 explains the key to conservative victory is to die on every hill:
The key to conservative victory is acting on all those areas of agreement within the GOP coalition and there are hundreds of areas of agreement. Keep winning yard by yard, issue by issue.Hehe, vmivol00 thinks even the Freedom Caucus are squishes!!
Nope. What matters now are the big issues like TPA/TPP, Obamacare and amnesty. And on those issues K Street and progressive GOPers are running the show. The lesser issues won’t matter if the country is fundamentally transformed by progressives.
I wonder why nobody from the Freedom Caucus has stepped up?
Because they are all talk. Jordan talks a big game, but then kisses Boehnor’s ring.
Look for him to lead the fold for that POS Ryan.