Thursday, September 24, 2015

No more turning the other cheek

You can already see the signs; I expect some choice drama in reaction to the Pope's address to Congress. In the meantime, here's some selective theology from 2014.

Alas, I've lost who posted this thread, but it is an interesting facet of Free Republic I don't often post about.

WND, reaching for crazy heights even they rarely manage to hit, with an article that begins "From behind a smoking sniper rifle high atop his ivory tower peers the secular-”progressive.” He surveys his many victims, strewn across the American landscape below and mockingly sneers, “War on Christianity? What war on Christianity?”" It then advocates nonviolent civil disobedience. Meh.

But Freepers feel the tone more than the message, and fall into a discussion of whether Jesus is cool with massacring liberals.

DavidLSpud argues killing 'in defense of the Constitution' is legit.
A True Child of God doesn’t kill.

Was King David a “true child of God”?

Is there a difference between kill and murder?

Is service to the U.S. Constitution murder, killing,

or defending a moral contract?
Fred Hayek is really ceding the 'unlike the Koran, the New Testament is nonviolent' high ground.
I would have to look it up, but there is a point in scripture about bending pruning rods into spears. Also something about selling ones cloak for a sword. So this stuff about Christians supposed to be milquetoast is a lot of rot.
Fiji Hill knows Christian massacres are okay - if you're killing Muslims.
A true child of Christ doesn’t kill.

I disagree. If Christian military heroes such as the Frankish warrior Charles Martel and the Roman emperors Constantine IV and Leo III had turned the other cheek in the face of the Muslim hordes, we would be praying to Mecca five times a day and our world would be little different from that of the eighth century.
MacNaughton is really sick of people Alinskying Jesus's words.
Modern Christians have finally become the "eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven" that they were commanded to be. Why pick up a gun and fight for your freedom when to wage violence is to endanger your immortal soul? Why not content yourself to being a poor little abused slave to the marxists in this world and then collect your reward in the next life? Thats how we got to where we are today. The disordered left has free reign to do whatever it wants, and the "opposition" has its hands tied behind its back by its "values" perpetually wringing those hands worrying if they are being charitable enough.

Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals, 1971

 RULE 4 - Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules. If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules no more than the Christian Church can live up to Christianity.

 Exodus 20:1-17 and Deuteronomy 5:4–21 – The Ten Commandments
 Leviticus 19:34 (NIV, © 2011) 34 The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the Lord your God.
 Matthew 5:38–5:42 – “turn the other cheek”
 Matthew 7:3-5 – “speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye/ plank in your own eye”
 Matthew 7:12, and Luke 6:31 – The Golden Rule
 Matthew 22:34-40 – “Love your neighbor as yourself.”
 Luke 6:27–31 – “love your enemies”
 Luke 6:37 - “Do not judge, and you will not be judged”
 James 2:10 - 10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.
GeronL is not optimistic, except about how long America will last.
I don’t see any real revolt coming. We might spend 100 years in the wilderness waiting for this Soviet to collapse
His despair doesn't stop GeronL from advocating mass ideological murder, though!
taking out every socialist in America would be self-defense
laplata seconds the mass murder sentiment.
taking out every socialist in America would be self-defense

That’s right.

Socialists/Progressives are enemies of our Prosperity, Security and Freedom, among other things.
Foundahardheadedwoman explains that there is nothing more Christian than Old Testament Wild West vigilante justice.
‘So, to shoot a socialist is to “kill” and is not murder?’

In the Old Testament when someone killed someone the elders came to him and he would explain why if it was thought justified he was free to go his way. Murder is different and is viewed in the Ten Commandments as being so. It says “Thou shalt not murder, not thou shalt not kill.

Old story when a killing took place in Texas the Rangers first question was, “Did he deserve killing?”
In the end, only one Freeper speaks out against the anti-liberal crusade. Luckily, rationalization and fantasizing planning is about all the work Freepers are willing to do in their quest to purify America.


  1. Irony of the day award, from the 'Pope address to Congress' live thread. I guess Bumbledumber wou;d have told Jesus to STFU....

    That old dude just complained about the death penalty.
    Sorry, I don’t take advice from:
    People that don’t speak English.
    Three strikes, you’re out.

    79 posted on 9/24/2015, 10:42:51 AM by humblegunner (NOW with even more AWESOMENESS)

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  3. Such lovely little fascists they are.

    MacNaughton takes the prize for me today though. Living up to the words of Jesus just means you are playing into the hands of liberals, so don't do that.

    They really are just in the religion to hit people with it, aren't they?

  4. JimRob posts anti-Catholic email he says he received, claims he isn't anti-Catholic:;page=1#1

  5. Pet niggle: Why the hell do people always misquote/misinterpret Luke 6:37? It doesn't say don't judge. It says "As you judge, so will you be judged." Completely different.

    Sorry. Back to the regular idiocy and hypocrisy!

  6. Actually, your quote is from Matthew 7:2 of the New American Bible (Revised Edition), and it comes right after Matthew 7:1 which reads, "Stop judging, that you may not be judged." Luke 6:37 reads, "Stop judging and you will not be judged. Stop condemning and you will not be condemned. Forgive and you will be forgiven." Other versions, like the NIV, do indeed say "Do not judge."