Wednesday, June 29, 2016

Benghazi limping

The GOP's Benghazi report has come out and suddenly Trey Gowdy is trying for the fig leaf that this wasn't an investigation of Hillary. Of course, it's too late...we've already seen everything.

So late that Freepers don't even attempt to pretend this was anything but a witch hunt. And there is nothing sadder than a witch hunt that fails to find a witch. Best they have is a bunch of Marines had to change in and out of their uniforms a bunch of times, though the report doesn't seem to care who gave those dumb orders.

Luckily Freepers, who always aim for infinite Clinton guilt, are used to disappointment, and it doesn't take long for them to go from scrambling to tin foil to hating the GOP once again.

Lets watch the transition, shall we?

Fantasywriter starts out hopeful:
Did Gowdy ever figure out who gave the stand down order?
Biggirl is knows what to hope for!
But could this also give “ammo” to one DJT?
hoosiermama is still a bit optimistic, but with more moderated expectations:
Just hoping there is enough there there so families can file a class action suit. Wouldn’t discovery be interesting!
Dacula lists some parts of the report, which lets you get a taste of both how little it proved, and how much it tries to insinuate:
The following facts are among the many new revelations in Part I:

Despite President Obama and Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta’s clear orders to deploy military assets, nothing was sent to Benghazi, and nothing was en route to Libya at the time the last two Americans were killed almost 8 hours after the attacks began. [pg. 141]

With Ambassador Stevens missing, the White House convened a roughly two-hour meeting at 7:30 PM, which resulted in action items focused on a YouTube video, and others containing the phrases “[i]f any deployment is made,” and “Libya must agree to any deployment,” and “[w]ill not deploy until order comes to go to either Tripoli or Benghazi.” [pg. 115]

The Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff typically would have participated in the White House meeting, but did not attend because he went home to host a dinner party for foreign dignitaries. [pg. 107]

A Fleet Antiterrorism Security Team (FAST) sat on a plane in Rota, Spain, for three hours, and changed in and out of their uniforms four times. [pg. 154]

None of the relevant military forces met their required deployment timelines. [pg. 150]

The Libyan forces that evacuated Americans from the CIA Annex to the Benghazi airport was not affiliated with any of the militias the CIA or State Department had developed a relationship with during the prior 18 months. Instead, it was comprised of former Qadhafi loyalists who the U.S. had helped remove from power during the Libyan revolution. [pg. 144]
NonValueAdded  uses some caps lock to try to turn this molehill into a mountain:
Did Gowdy ever figure out who gave the stand down order?

Looks like it was pre-ordained by the 7:30PM White House meeting:
With Ambassador Stevens missing, the White House convened a roughly two-hour meeting at 7:30 PM, which resulted in action items focused on a YouTube video, and others containing the phrases "[i]f any deployment is made," and "Libya must agree to any deployment," and "[w]ill not deploy until order comes to go to either Tripoli or Benghazi." [pg. 115]
It might not be the exact wording "stand down," but it sure as heckfire had that result.
Note that this diplomacy is fine if you assume our forces can't teleport.

alrea falls back on previous Benghazi theories:
Did Gowdy ever figure out who gave the stand down order?”

With Obama missing for 8 hours they were probably not sure what to do.
piasa agrees - what about all that talk of Cross Boarder Authority from a year ago??!!
Instead of taking responsibility and giving the order to permit the crossing of the border, Obama pushed the responsibilitgy off onto the Libyans. It’s not his fault, it was Libya’s fault. It was also his way of dumping it onto Hillary since it would then be up to her to find and persuade the right Libyans to give permission in order to then ask Obama for the CBA. 
Obama didn’t give a crap whether or not the right libyan oficials could be contacted in time.

But the pubbies will not press the CBA point because he’s the first black president, he’s on the way out,... and they are only interested in Hillary for the election.
Love that last bit. Benghazi is a nothingburger because Obama's black.

Uh-oh, Fantasywriter is getting antsy for a smoking gun!
Call me jaded and cynical, but if Gowdy couldn’t figure out who signed those two eight-hour-life-and-death-fighting Marines’ death warrant, what the hell good is his report?
servo1969 sees what's going on:
Allow me to summarize the entire response from the media on this report:

napscoordinator agrees - this is lame, and it's all Gowdy's fault!
Democrats releasing their report yesturday got the republicans off their butts. Who knows if anything comes from it. Trey gladly is boring. I am trying to listen to him but he is horrible. Total waste of time. Thank god he’s handing it over.
Cboldt reacts by assuming everyone and everything is in on the coverup:
The report has only a political purpose. My takeaway is that the government is worse than incompetent, it is evil.

My reaction to the press is the same. It is worse than incompetent, it is evil.

House investigation into arms running was shut down by government.
MinuteGal just blames the press:
The minute the presser was over with, CNN had a banner superimposed and lengthily-implanted on their various recaps and analysis on the bottom of the screen. It appeared so quickly it's almost like it was pre-planned (wry sarcasm, here).

The whitewashing of Hillary's role in Benghazi has commenced with a feverish bang simultaneous with the furious media condemnation of the ordinary peoples' Brexit pushback in Europe.

The greatest insidious enemy of the Republic is the Goebbels/leftist-controlled anti-American media...its threat is becoming more horrifying every day.
frnewsjunkie is still sure that this report somehow proves to all right-thinking people that Hillary is evil:
If his report did contain the name of the person who "signed the death warrant" (and a command for inaction is apt to be in unwritten form), his report would have the same impact 
it will be spun, by the press, as a partisan witchhunt, and according to the report, Obama and Hillary did a great job, under the circumstances.

The government is totally out of control, corrupt, and in my mind, lacks all legitimacy. It exists purely as a function of force of violence.

If the people can’t sort that much out, and in spite of all that is on hillary’s record and in spite of all that obama has done, if hillary is elected, this country will not be fit to live in.

They can’t seem to sort out the kind of person Trump is and the kind of person hillary is.

The press at that benghazi conference, were hillary supporters... they are guilty of treason and that used to be a punishable offense. nothing is punishable any more, unless you are a good patriotic citizen.
Trump Girl Kit Cat yells that despite the report, WE ALL KNOW Benghazi-Hillary bad, but America is over so  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯!
This WAS arms running WE ALL know it but LIVS don’t know it this blew up in HILDABEASTS face and all she was concerned about was the spin to cover it all up!!! I in my gut believe our country is DONE I see no way out of the corruption this government has become!!!
Trump Girl Kit Cat soon bucks up, because America isn't over! TRUMP!
We right now are under the typical barrage of MSM destroying, Trump this WON’T stop we will ALL NEED each other to keep our chins up, Hillary is such a BAD candidate Trump is going to get crucified like we have NEVER SEEN before WE are even getting this CRAP from our own side don’t EVER get discouraged !!! MAGA!!!!! AMERICA FIRST!!!!
Did someone say Trump? HarleyLady27's here to note that people are like elephants...
She’s guilty, obuma is guilty and we all know it...they lie, they hide, but they can’t hide for long...

Gone are the days that the American people are asleep, we know what is going on, they will answer...if not here at this time, they will answer for their crimes...

People are like elephants...we never forget...
And Fantasywriter comes around to realizing that the lack of a conspiracy proves only that the conspiracy is even bigger than she thought:
If Gowdy discovered whose order directly resulted in the death of the two Marines, no, I don’t believe he would tell us. The Uniparty’s goal is to toss the peasants enough scraps, from time to time, to make them believe DC is working for them. But the Uniparty cannot afford to give the peasants enough info to cause genuine unrest. The Uniparty will issue a report from time to time. They just need to make sure there is no widespread call for action in the aftermath.


  1. Thus their infatuation with the Donald ...
    He screams and yells about conspiracies with no facts to back him up, just like freepers.

    Anybody who doesn't do that (e.g. Trey Gowdy) is an obvious RINO!

  2. Certainly a lawyer armed with civil discovery procedures could discover more than the damned United States House of Representatives issuing congressional subpoenas

  3. Hey RomneyGuy, I was wondering what the discussions about Benghazi were like inside the campaign? Did Romney truly think that this was his ticket to the White House, or was it less cynical than that? From the outside, it seemed to us like the deaths of four Americans was being used as a political football. That Romney thought this was his October Surprise. But would you say that Romney was more interested in what really happened, or more hoping that what happened could be used against Obama?

    Sorry if this comes across as confrontational. I'd actually like to know if I'm wrong about all this and that Romney was genuinely concerned.

  4. Tickets to Leftist Nirvana (Venezuela) for
    sale cheap! Get yours while they last!

    Aunt Hannie the Harelipped

    1. Good news, Hannie! I already addressed your attempt to equate Democrats with Chavistas!

    2. Tickets to Russia are pretty cheap too, maybe TWINKIE can get a kiss from her hero Putin!

      Last time TWINKIE went to the doctor, he told her they needed a stool sample and an urine sample.
      TWINKIE took off her mumu and said "Here you go!"

  5. People are like elephants...we never forget...

    Freepers are not like elephants. They forgot the August 6, 2001 Presidential Daily Briefing (PDB) as fast as possible, and then latched onto Benghazi like a pitbull with a bone. Their memories are only as good as their biases.

  6. "our country is DONE"

    in the freeperverse, america's raped bludgeoned bullet-riddled cleavered poisoned bombed and ebola'ed corpse just never seems to stay dead ...

  7. As a non-American, can anyone explain to me what the big deal about Benghazi is supposed to be?

    1. An ambassador died, which is kind of a big deal.

      Then Republicans used that as a partisan cudgel for the next four years, robbing the event and city of any meaning in America beyond 'Hillary bad.'

      Though IIRC a bunch of staffing numbers didn't add up, so there was probably some covert CIA stuff going on there no one is talking about because it doesn't have to do with Hillary (and maybe national security.)

    2. kevin mccarthy, once prospective replacement for john boehner as speaker of the house, put it succinctly during a fox news interview:

      "Everybody thought Hillary Clinton was unbeatable, right? But we put together a Benghazi special committee, a select committee. What are her numbers today? Her numbers are dropping. Why? Because she’s un-trustable. But no one would have known any of that had happened had we not fought."

      which is one of many reasons that paul ryan is now speaker.