But something has changed, I think, when Freepers suddenly stop talking about giving the speech that convinces America Freepers are right, and start talking about using guile to slip their policies in under the door via seemingly innocuous laws or the courts.
This is what has happened with abortion. Not one year ago Freepers were convinced this surveillance video would awaken America's disgust with abortion and sweep it from our Constitution.
Yet now, when Trump's veep Pence says Trump's SCOTUS will overturn Roe v. Wade, Freepers almost unanimously freak the fuck out that abortion policy isn't being made in secret. No one else noticed, from what I can see, but Freepers no longer seem to think abortion will drive people to the polls like it used to:
BobL thinks this is another Trump masterstroke:
...and guess who get the headlines tomorrow?Tenacious 1, though, knows you need to ban abortion secretly!
Why would they say that? Are they trying to motivate the liberals? It’s not necessary. Great to plan for it. Stupid to announce it.hinckley buzzard hates conservatives that are super extreme:
Dumb to announce this. Why?supremedoctrine knows the left gets overwrought about abortion:
Because Pence is the worst kind of conservative politician, one who just can't wait to say something that will taint the campaign with ill-considered extremism. We had several of these idiots in the last couple elections-- and they all lost winnable races.
Dumb to announce it. It will be quoted every day somewhere in the media every day until election day. And it feeds right into the overwrought scenario of returning to the days of wire coat hangers.magna carta thinks this is a great idea - lets start a national baby-having initiative!
we need to up our tribes-he can link it back to Islamcomebacknewt also thinks mentioning abortion only helps liberals:
“talking” about stopping it does nothing but fire up the other side.Randy Larsen is panicking:
WHY say this now? WHY not wait until Trump has been elected? Why now damn it why???Randy Larsen is not happy with Pence:
This pisses me off so bad I’m starting to think Pence was a major mistake. GD I’m pissed off!Randy Larsen remembers when Free Republic focused only on elections, not on principles:
Why don’t you and your idiot friends not understand that he HAS NOT BEEN ELECTED YET!!! Get it through your thick skulls that anything he might say he would do doesn’t mean squat if he’s not elected in the first damn place. I always though that most FReepers were pretty smart but tonight has been a real game changer.Nifster thinks Pence is working for the enemy:
My heart breaks for FreeRepublic.com.
We used to understand the nemesis.
Pence is trying to sink Trump. He keeps making statements that aren’t necessary and in fact hurtZULU also straps on the Pence-tin foil. Could Sekret Muslim be far behind?
It’s the economy stupid and radical Islamic terrorism. Stick to those and you win
Pence may be an establishment plant. Remember he supports TPP. Watch him Trump. Don’t trust anyone. The Clintons, thanks to scamming their foundation, are billionaires. They buy people. Probably bought McConnell and Ryan and Boehner. Go see :Hillary’s America.sagar, though, thinks America yearns for a war on abortion, and the women that get them!
Double down! Call for imprisonment and first degree sentencing for murdering “doctors” and accomplice “mothers”. Meet somewhere in the middle — “doctors” get 20 years with the possibility for parole after 10 years and “mothers” get life with the possibility of parole after menopause.right way right is another who thinks every time Trump does something super dumb, it's exposure which makes Trump a genius:
As far as I am concerned, this is timed by the Trump campaign. Tomorrow Trump sucks up the weekend news cycle. He is an expert. I believe he can handle this to his advantage.Secret Agent Man is another paranoid Pence hater:
Instead of panicking I’m going to watch what Trump does with it.
check dnc email leaks for any going to pence.There are really only a very few who don't think you should hide your pro-Life under a bushel. They're overrepresented here, because they're so crazy. huldah1776 starts with a little mild delusion:
America is more pro-life than the truthful/s media portrays.huldah1776 then adds this odd view of our system of checks and balances:
It can be done by passing a law making it illegal and having the President sign it. The SCOTUS has to follow the law. Roe V Wade is unconstitutional.Conservative Gato is full-on 'we surround them.'
For all- the Biblical consequence for a nation that legalizes Child Sacrifice is invasion and conquest. It is also unforgivable on that level (not the personal level).
The truth is we have to defeat this leftist culture if we are to get this country back on track.Randy Larsen thinks he's on reality TV or something:
Most of all, we have to quit giving this leftist culture all this power over us, that they have established over many decades through many ways like, news media, entertainment industry, education, etc. It’s time we learn to ignore them because of their failed ideology and it is a failed ideology in so many ways that conservatives here understand.
You will also have to understand, only about 20% of Americans identify themselves with this failed ideology. They are a small minority but they control much of the influences (see paragraph above) in this country to make themselves look like a bigger presence than they really are. This is right out of the Alinksy’s “Rules for Radicals” playbook to make themselves look like a bigger movement that what it really is.
The great thing is we’ve been blessed with a leader like Trump that understands who the opposition really is and is smashing right through their evil playbook. He is taking them head on and he needs all of our support in order to defeat them.
I hope you come to understand, it’s a brand new day and a brand new fight. Together, if we all stand up to them, we can defeat the evil that has tried to take our country down. Donald Trump is showing us the way so please, do not get discouraged.
I didn’t join to make friends. I’m here to try to save my country.jersey117 wants to double down:
Get off my back! You don’t Know me and you sure as heck don’t have any right what so ever to tell me how I should express my opinion
I don’t think we should run from this. I think there is a powerful case to be made to paint hillary as the ultimate cold, evil, heartless person who supports the late term dismemberment of viable babies. Put it out there in stark graphic terms to the average person who may not know what an awful horrific act of violence it is.scooby321 is not so optimistic:
Mike Pence we had the winning Issue and you just changed the subjectKickass Conservative - the battle is lost:
How did they shut Palin up and not him
Todd Akin could have won if he never gave an interview
Health Reasons bring in Newt
Even if Conservative Justices are appointed, Roe v Wade will never be undone.anton wants to get these religious nuts out of his GOP!
Those same Conservative Justices would rule for restrictions on Abortion (late term, viability, requiring Doctors to have Hospital Privileges, etc.) that the Liberals always oppose, but Abortion supported by Federal Law is here to stay.
The question was a setup and Mike Pence fell for it. He just gave the Rats a BIG HANGING CURVEBALL to use against Trump. Back Alleys and Wire Hangers here we come.
I am so sick of waiting for the other Shoe to drop with our Candidates. The Press protects Democrats and always looks to derail Republicans.
Trump leads a nationalist movement with an emphasis on God given American greatness. Not a religious movement. Or a life saving movement for the unborn. The Constitution is what it is. And, if followed would not have mandated abortion rights and taken those rights to deny abortions from to the states. But that does not translate into a Constitutional mandate for the Pro Life credo.
It is the religious zealots who demand that an Article be found in the Constitution that supports their position. Sorry Charlie. There isn’t one. Your candidates have gotten their asses kicked while the country has gone to Hell. For my part, I oppose abortion, but am not willing to have another 30 years of bad government to keep a political position that is a loser.