Bogus Senate CIA torture report released by Obama order; to harm America!

Freepers love torture. For Muslims, for murderers, children.

But Obama is also for a bit of the old drowney game himself - or at least keeping it secret.

Undeterred, when Senate Democrats revealed evidence that not only did we torture, but that we got nothing for it, Freepers blame Obama for even acknowledging the existence of the memos. And, perhaps because they recognize the dissonance, they crank up their rage even further, to better drown out the possibility that an inkling of causality might enter.

mulligan keeps it simple and believes nothing he doesn't want to.

Pure BS. Obama is one big liar. Pure evil.

Da Coyote doesn't even bother with the whole torture issue, and goes straight to Obama rage.

Rule 1:

There is no depth below which Dorkbama and his MSM minions will not sink.

Logical me moves on to hating all the garbage voters who voted for Obama.

King Obama is mentally ill. He is beyond redemption and he still has millions of followers. That tells a lot about millions of Americans. We have a huge garbage pile and no cure in sight.

GreenHornet is sure torture is all that kept America's reputation up in the world:

This clown gets more delusional by the day. No one has done more harm to to America's reputation than Barack Hussein Obama. His foreign policy has been an absolute disaster. Our enemies no longer fear us, our allies no longer trust us, and neither has any respect for us.

sanjuanbob - when you're America, you're too awesome to care about any atrocities committed in your name!

Yawn...let’s talk about Vietnam atrocities while we’re at it.
(no disrespect intended)

puppypusher also conflates Vietnam with torturing prisoners.

This is your typical democrat tactic.lose the election then badmouth your country.Dems are fond of doing this.They did the same thing during and following the Vietnam war.

These democrats are evil people who love placing the lives of others in danger because they’re not risking their loved ones who are serving to protect us from these terrorist animals.

TADSLOS can only imagine spite as the motivation for releasing this.

Scorched Earth. The left loves to burn their way out of loss.

LeonardFMason knows if you don't die, it's all good!

More people died during the riots in Ferguson than died at the hands of our interrogators.

Ghost of SVR4 is sure the CIA hates America.

I guess we’ll no fairly quick who the CIA aligns with. My bet is NOT on the American side. It’s been said here for many years that the CIA was politicized and is more party oriented than nation oriented. tick-tock, time will tell.

Red Badger knows the Founders loved torture.

There is a reason ‘Torture’ is not explicitly mentioned in the Constitution.

THEY KNEW THAT AT SOME TIMES IT IS NECESSARY......................

Never mind the whole Cruel and Unusual bit, then!

Peter Libra's cognitive dissonance between paragraph 1 and 2 is amazing.

Some of the punishments especially on Tower Hill,London, one can attribute to inhuman devils. The Framers knew they would have to have the death sentence for criminal conduct. They just wanted the orgy of torturing of a poor wretch, with the amusement of the stench ridden crowd watching, to be ended.

I winced at the disclosure of the methods used by the CIA et al. I ask myself, why in the name of heaven release this stuff?

"The Founders hated torture. Which is why we need to keep it secret whenever we do it!"

Red Badger takes offense that anyone would argue morality and not legality.

They will not argue the legality of torture, or whether it is in fact torture or not. They will instead argue whether it is ‘moral’ or ‘immoral’, thus taking the self-righteous high ground for themselves, under their private definition of ‘morality’. To them it does not matter about legality, only what they perceive as being their moral duty to stop it, regardless of its effectiveness, which they claim is ineffective and unnecessary.

The mind of a liberal is so naive as to be dangerous to themselves and others. These terrorists would kill them and their families without a seconds hesitation, and the liberals would try to ‘understand’ them while doing so....................

The report says that torture yielded no new intelligence, but never mind that - it's needed for to keep your family from being killed!

Democrats made me fat

A lot of Freepers blamed Eric Garner's death on his weight, this seemed germane.

Freepers' beloved south seems a bit heavy in surveys. They swiftly rationalize. pallis immediately knows who to blame:

Obesity is linked to poverty, and eating the wrong foods, eating too much, and not working or exercising. Blame food stamps and Democrats.

freebird5850 thinks obesity is fine.

We have been told that obesity is a problem.

That’s propaganda.

People are now worried only about those other people who are fat. Best to leave it alone.

' So then homosexuals...

freebird5850 explains that food stamps somehow encourage fast food purchases:

EBT cards buy a lot of convenience food. No need to try and cook healthy meals when you can get a bucket of chicken or a slab of ribs to go...

skeeter:

If the First Wookie really cared, she'd kick the president's arse for dramatically increasing the food stamp program.

peyton randolph is pretty sure all the skinny states are gay:

California

The late comedian Sam Kinison explained that pretty well when discussing thin homosexuals.

“Who wants to eat when you’ve had a **** in your mouth all day.”

KosmicKitty gets topical:

Colorado’s going flip. Can’t stay skinny and get the munchies. Give them 5 years, they’ll be on the top10 fat list.

Monday Potpourri

iowacornman is convinced the government shutdown was awesome for the GOP:

WE HAD A LANDSLIDE VICTORY BECAUSE WE SHUT THE GOVERNMENT DOWN FOR 2 days and invigorated the base!! Shut the damned thing down until Jan 1 — Dont just let them have funding!!! This is madness.

2nd Amendment is having some logical problems being super racist:

I’m in a conundrum about race. There’s certain people like Dr. Ben Carson. Condoleeza Rice, Thomas Sowell, Allen West, Justice Thomas, many Fox news contributors, etc. etc. who are just brilliant and competent and the best in what they do. I seriously seldon think of race when listening to these people. But the hoards of mayhem-oriented gangs that patrol our inner cities and Ferguson cause me to gag and to compare them to Nigerian or Mogadishu goon squads. I catch my self wondering if their is a genetic trigger for such feral behavior. I know there isn’t but it feeds into my deepest fears about race.

babygene goes in for the big laffs about the Obama daughters:

Trash two teen girls all you want

And what makes you think they are Girls? Are you sure Machille is a woman? Their dad is obviously a homo.

No telling what the two of them are...

re_nortex knows attacking Obama's daughters is the key to victory:

Agreed 100%. Elizabeth Lauten was wrong to cave on this. The only way to win is relentlessly attack and never EVER apologize.

Joe Boucher laments Free Republic's censorship of some even worse digs at Obama's daughters:

I’m pretty sure I agree with post numbers 2,3, 8, 12 etc. that have been censured.
By some moderator.
This whole family is garbage.
Obammy takes shots at every damn person and his brats should be fair game when they act like him, spoiled crappola.
Ya gonna censor me too?

BCW will allow no injustices to matter while abortions still happen:

"We are marching against wrong. We are standing against wrong. And here you now have a man choked to death on videotape and says 11 times “I can’t breathe.”...It is against the law to have excessive force.”

uhm...what about helpless babies tore out of the womb in abortion clinics located within Black communities...what about those lives...oh wait...it’s not AGAINST the law...

Love how these liberals pick and chose which issue to apply their defunked mentality and lack of principles to...

Travis McGee has a new conspiracy to write about:

If three men, just three, are currently under control of White House blackmail, we are check-mated at this point. (Roberts, Boehner, McConnel.) We can expect no remedy from SCOTUS or Congress. Rumors about Roberts and Boehner are extensive. Blackmail is Team Obama's M.O. McConnel, I don't know of any scandal rumors, but blackmail is Obama's favored tool.

We are in much greater danger than most people understand.

onedoug speaks on behalf of Israel:

Dear Barack (or whatever your name is),

GO TO HELL!

The Israeli Government.

Freepers like Breto are going to make Gruber a thing for the next couple of years.

We are being Grubered by Boner...Or should we call him Judas..

Obstinate has decided it's the next election that will destroy America.

Hillary is going to SUCK as a president, but she WILL be the next president because the GOP turned their back on the midterm election results.

That is entirely possible.

About a year ago I nicknamed her “The Nail.”

Because as far as I’m concerned if she makes it to the WH she will be the last nail in this nation’s coffin.

Ghost of SVR4 has a plan for Officer Wilson's future:

He should go into “consulting” or advising other departments across the country (bare knuckle, no PC crap, straight up advise racism be damned) and consulting other police unions. The knowledge he has right now of the inter workings of the thugs and their support staff could be invaluable to another (smaller) department or large city with internal PC problems.

mojito pulls a literal Dolchstoß:

"Pardon me, while I pull that knife out of my back," said the loyal GOP voter.

greeneyes has been pulled over based on particular suspicion. So what are blacks so angry about?!

I am white, and I have been pulled over for some weird reasons too. On a particularly cold day in St. Louis a cop pulled me over and asked me a bunch of questions about where I had been and where I was going and why was I in the area.

When I got home that night, they were on the lookout for a robbery suspect driving a white car similar to mine and a driver wearing a black hat with a brim. I had on a similar hat, because my heater wasn't working very well, and I felt like I was freezing.

Another time I had to drive home using one of those odd sized emergency spare tires, so I was driving about 45 mph in a 55 mph zone. The cop wanted to know why I was driving so slow. I explained, we chatted, and he said take it easy on the way home. There were some bars along that stretch, and I think he wanted to see if I was DUI.

I've also had encounters with jerks. Sometimes I'd like to pepper them with insults, but that's not prudent. To help me to be polite, I try to remember, he might be having a bad day.

For example: He might have insomnia and only got an hour of sleep, his wife might have served him with divorce papers, he and his ex wife might have had a knock down drag out fight, a drunk might have puked on his shoes, some thug might have tried to shoot him earlier that night.

I don't see what the big deal is with getting pulled over.

txhurl explains how Cruz's Harvard background is okay:

Cruz is no blue-blood, far from it: he actually had to work his way through the Ivy unlike most who flit through there.

NoLibZone:

Statistics are Science.

A science that progressives reject.

Saturday Pix

I knew it!

Blacks can't actually feel any emotions other than greed.

Never mind the peaceful protests, every single black was out and looting last week!

Love that Gangster Jefferson.

Only Communist idiots protest police brutality!

Stupid Establishment Elephant is making some kinda liberal gang sign, I think.

Spotlight Friday: F15Eagle

F15Eagle

SATAN! END TIMES! ALINSKY!

He's as much a parody as the SNL Church Lady. Beyond the usual Freeper birtherism and whatnot, this guy is of the dramatic strain of Christianity, and sees Satan and the end times behind everything that goes on. He's also a prepper, and an enthusiastic conspiracist, though without bothering with the detailed scenarios many do.

He also hates Walter Cronkite extra, for some reason.

End times acommin'

~~~The stage is being set for the Tribulation~~~

Yep

End times scenario Initiated...

The end times scenario has been initiated and God is in control. We are not going to change the trajectory. Look up for our redemption draweth nigh.

Amen

Def, last days.

We are definitely in the Last Days.

Though I expect ISIS to turn towards Israel — crazy islamic terrorists always do.

And then, a ‘peace’ deal ... confirmed for 7 years.

Yet more doomsdaying:

That will not be the future.

Ezekiel 38 shows that.

I guess he doesn't believe in the rapture

Been distributing some Gospel tracts.

Friend and I picked up some more, um, supplies this past week.

Preparation. Just in case there are more crazy rioters out there. And I’m sure there are.

He's one of those insular, cliquish evangelicals.

Those who reject his Deity and His Lordship are not my brothers. They may join us.

But we will not join them. I will not.

If that offends, good. Happy to offend.

Islam, an Abrahamic Religion?

~~~Your service is a powerful example of the powerful roots of the Abrahamic faiths~~~

A lie straight from the pit of Hell.

Moon God?

Allah is not the God of Abraham, Allah is the pagan moon god.

Islam is literally a lie from the gates of hell.

Correct

Evidenceless Birtherism

He has all the marks of somebody who assumed either the identity of a deceased infant or senior citizen.

I’ll bet if the truth were known, it would fill a book.

And then the world will wonder how the country could be so dumb to put such a man in the highest office in the land, and the world.

Regardless of his Birth, Obama is not Spiritually American.

Obomba is not from the USA; at least not in spirit, anyways.

He doesn’t care for America and that’s why he doesn’t know even the basic things.

And has a good number of idiot leftist liberal supporters.

...Point is, Obama's father is Satan:

~~~Ah, obama has done his father’s (John 8:44) work well. Very well.~~~

No one can be motivated, except by naked self-interest.

No straight man works on gay causes.

No straight man does.

True Christianity means voting against Obama:

Velcome to zee world of Komrade Kwanzaa Obama.

For those dummies who voted for this clown and consider themselves “Christians”

WHAT’S WRONG WITH YOU?!??!!

Medicare is a conspiracy to kill old people:

One way to get rid of the older population - Social Security, Medicare and Prescription Drug.

They might just do ... just that...

Everything from Syria to Trayvon Martin to Pop culture was created to distract from Obama:

it’s exactly what he needs to distract from those things and Great Depression Part Deux.

The Golf and Jay-Z/Beyonce thing just ain’t workin’ it no more.

His St. TM gambit also failed miserably though a few idiots are going to go down for it. Like the useful (to Jesse and Al) idiots who killed that guy in Oklahoma and the ones who killed that 88-year-old veteran.

Everything Obama does. Everything.

ObamaNation only wants non-Americans working and wages depressed to $5/hr if that.

Everything he does is to destroy traditional America.

Everything he does.

Yearning for the good old days of the Cold War:

A nation conquered by political correctness.

Unimaginable during the Cold War.

Walter Cronkite:

Walter Cronkite said “he was glad to sit here at the right hand of Satan”

More Cronkite hate:

Uncle Wally’s a devil worshipper.

He thought he was being clever. He found that whole Messiah thing a laugh.

For a bit, I guess.

PROOF!

 

Katy Perry wears tight pro-Obama outfits:

When I see those dresses, it makes me think this is how the world will worship the Antichrist. In the beginning ....

Why don't more people share is delusions?

Their works are manifest. While many in this nation can see what is happening (I get surprised by a few I speak with) I’m also amazed at the spiritual blindness of many others.

But I shouldn’t be.

For it is prophesied that in the Last Days shall come strong delusion. And we are seeing the firstfruits of it.

The War on Christmas:

~~~“The war on Christmas is a war on Christ,”~~~

The spirit of antichrist, whom you have heard is coming, is already at work in the world.

It's all Satan

Yeah, and mebbe Holder is counting on just that?

They are Alinsky/Lenin disciples after all. They firmly believe in progress from chaos.

Yep.

The Devil loves chaos and tells constant lies.

I’m sure it’s probably just a coincidence. /s

Naturally, Democratic voters are empowered by Satan.

Well, we can see that Obama’s base is energized.

By the prince of the power of the air (Ephesians 2:2, 2 Corinthians 4:3-4).

They will meet the same fate as their master (John 8:44), lest they turn.

Satan, Satan, Satan!

Take you Satan lies elsewhere, with your lies of Satan.

You are in the wrong and you seem to be making excuses for it.

Get thee behind me Satan. Sell it on DU.

Satan.

Freepers argue about pot

More and more states are decriminalizing weed. Freepers find themselves caught between the social conservatives of the 1950s and the also social conservatives with this one exception of the also 1950s.

Things get amusingly heated and petty.

fwdude knows the government will soon be shoving drugs down all our throats:

The government permitting of illicit drugs will soon become the government promoting illicit drugs, just as Lawrence permitting homosexual sodomy soon became an all-out push for government benefits for the same.

This new milieu of "legal-makes-moral" is the hallmark of a degenerate society. We once had relatively few laws because a moral underpinning, a societal fabric of morality, created and upheld effective taboos that were every bit, if not more so, effective as laws.

greene66 gets rather dramatic:

A nation of degenerate dopeheads.

America has become a damned sewer of a country. Socialism, dope, and homo-marriage. My interest in its preservation gets smaller and smaller by the day. I suspect by 2016, I won’t even bother voting anymore. There is just no reason to.

ifinnegan blames the 60's:

Drug use has caused all this excrement we are dealing with since the 60’s.

Is just snowballed.

Drugs are what did in our nation.

GeronL weighs in:

The left has dumbed down this country to the point where everything EXCEPT decency and standards are acceptable to the masses

DJ Taylor tells a story from 'Nam:

I've never used marijuana, but I've worked with or around people who did, and from this I learned several things.

Marijuana stays in the users system much longer than does alcohol. The effects of Marijuana use will remain in the users system and affect his motor skills for over twenty-four hours, and alcohol's effects will usually be gone in no more than eight hours. As usual, I earned this one the hard way.

During the Vietnam War, I was making a heliborne assault on a mountainside when the pilot suddenly lost control and crashed the helicopter. There was a thorough investigation into the accident, and it was found that the helicopter crew had been smoking marijuana the night before and the pilot was still affected by it the following afternoon.

We learned the hard way in Vietnam that there might be a few things a person may be able to do after smoking marijuana but flying helicopters isn't one of them.

WayneS notes how far natural law arguments can go:

Sorry. But just like abortion, queer marriages, pedophillia, and so on...

Your personal freedoms do not overide the common good.

Unless of course you think like a liberal.

On the contrary, “the common good” does NOT over-ride personal freedoms, so long as others are not harmed by their exercise. Abortion and pedophilia cause direct harm to people other than those who practice it. A person smoking a joint in their own house does not.

But thanks for supporting the “gun-grabbers” arguments anyway...

Responsibility2nd does not take kindly to this logic:

In what stoned out frame of mind do you see an argument for the “gun-grabbers” arguments here?

Its bad enough that you defend illgal drugs, but to make up and insert arguments not on the table is just too liberal.

In fact, Responsibility2nd rejects the concept of argument-by-analogy entirely:

You could not win your argument by staying on topic, so you introduced a new “bait and switch” diversionary tactic to try and build up your weak arguments.

Here try this: It doesn’t work either, but stamp your foot - call me a doody-head and tell the teacher on me.

Its all the same.

Finny takes on the ashes and sackcloth people:

Oh, America was the greatest achievement civilization ever saw, and was an unequivocal force of good in the world. I marvel at its history and heritage. As recounted on another thread, I used to go to library and I spent HUNDREDS of hours reading through old newspapers on microfilm (apparently while other FReepers were out getting wasted on dope), going through endless decades recounting America’s greatness.

THAT was America. Not Obama’s Choom-Gang America, full of socialists and deviants. America is a pathetic, dying shell of everything it once was. A country that is so intent on defining deviancy down, with a putrid culture of dope, homo-marriage, and Miley Cyrus twerking... is a country that has thrown itself away. Embracing dope, faggotry and evil. That’s what America is transitioning to, an truly degenerate and evil entity.

They might be just partially symbolic, but the country now gung-ho on fag-marriage and now ‘endorsing’ dope, makes me question my lifelong interest in wanting and trying to salvage the country as a whole. A dopehead nation is not a nation I’m going to put my life on the line for, to put it mildly.

Please, please, please, both of you, MOVE TO FRANCE since you think Americans are such losers in spite of ample evidence that Obama/leftism/gay-hugging/defining deviancy down, are promoted by a minority that dominates the MSM and wins elected office by CHEATING.

Please. Do America and yourselves a favor: MOVE THE HELL OUT OF THE U.S.A. You hate America and your fellow Americans so much so you are now part of the problem. Please LEAVE.

ansel12 starts calling people liberals:

Americans don't need laws forbidding them to "marry" gay partners. Members of the military don't need laws forbidding homosexuals from acting openly in its culture of officers and ranks.

Americans by nature reject open homosexuality civilly and peacefully -- civilized Westerners have done so for centuries.

Recent judicial and civil rights law forbid a cake baker from refusing to serve a homosexual couple. Laws now punish military folks for discriminating against an openly homosexual person from being included in various activities and venues. That is the authoritarian way of today's government, and it got there because a minority basically cheated and manipulated its way into power over a majority, and then used government to dictate morality.

That very authoritarianism via laws forbidding moral choices, is what has brought the problem about -- government is the mechanism of tyranny. Advocating for more of it in the other direction is as misguided.

You lefties come at conservatism from all kinds of angles, using all kinds of vocabularies, in all kinds of mediums, and on all kinds of forums, even conservative ones have people working the left’s angle (with adjusted language of course).

But you all have the same end goal.

mrsmel finds a Bible verse against weed!

There was no prohibition in either the NT or OT, nor was there a suggestion that there should be. So how does the Bible justify secular drug laws?

Well, firstly, Jesus said "render unto Caesar" which didn't mean that Christians had to participate in lawful but immoral practices. Secondly, I was always taught (trusting in my pastors and teachers, who had studied the matter and whose teaching always coincided over the years-in this world, I must trust someone, as I will never be a genius who can study it all for myself in the original texts, so I choose to trust those who have never led me wrong on other matters, to the best of my knowledge), that the word translated as "witchcraft"-pharmakia-refers to recreational drug use.

Freepers vs. virginity

I'm gonna be busy finishing up school the next 2 weeks, so updates will be spotty/from my buffer for the next couple of weeks.

Its not so much what Freepers believe, it's what they're not willing to throw under the bus. And when liberal site Salon has a post by a 26-year-old who is planning not to have sex before marriage, it turns out chastity is something they will easily sacrifice to better hate on this evil liberal woman. Especially when she has a nose ring:

Noseringgate.

Squantos refuses to believe:

Writing for Salon..... she’s a presstitute aka liar.

Thunder90 knows the only men that can hold on until marriage:

Lose the nose ring, and find a good Christan serviceman returning from Afghanistan (or one who served in Iraq). That’s where she should be looking.

fwdude:

How far we’ve fallen.

yldstrk insists that everyone marry virgins:

How about your wedding night? And he better be one too.

yldstrk explains why:

For the souls to join together properly

napscoordinator knows what's up:

I think she is a lesbian. I really do.

fieldmarshaldj explains his very superficial judgement:

I was merely saying with the hideous nosering, she is “guilty” (hence undesirable), but when the nosering comes out, she is “not guilty” (hence attractive). That’s all. And no, no mention of a tattoo (which almost always earns a “guilty” from me).

GeronL also has high standards:

nothing says devout Christian like a nose ring

Frederick_Barbarossa reads much into the nosering as well:

In all honesty, I think she’s a “fame” tramp.

Nose Ring? If she is what she says she is, then she does NOT know the significance of that piercing.

OTH, if she is looking for her 15 minutes, well then......

noserings lead to tattoos, and ifinnegan makes this analogy:

“My nephew, a serious christian got a tattoo on his arm as a statement of his faith....when he became saved...”

Makes no sense. Kind of like going out and committing sodomy to celebrate getting saved.

southern rock urges women to settle:

Having a baby doesn't mean anything, but a woman still playing hard to get in her 40's is narcissistic and delusional to the extreme. What does she think it's made of? Gold?

butterdezillion has her own sex cosmology:

Sex before marriaqe is learninq how to have sex with somebody you’re not married to. Totally different than what marriaqe is, and that may be one reason that cohabitatinq before marriaqe actually increases the likelihood of the marriaqe endinq in divorce. If you’ve spent your lifetime learninq how to sample the field lookinq for somebody perfect, you’re not qoinq to stop doinq that just because you wear a weddinq rinq.

We’ve known people who cohabitated for a lonq time but when they qot married it was a totally different thinq, and they quickly divorced. They had learned to NOT be husband and wife, and couldn’t handle it when they tried to actually be husband and wife.

wardaddy is always great where women are concerned:

not saying you can’t have consensual naughtiness with your mate but just because a girl wants a gang bang or humiliation ...don’t go along

In fact...speak up....say it ain’t right. If you’re there

Or leave....too many girls get second thoughts days later when talk starts

And they file charges

To hear 20 something guys I know today...90% of young women...are just like men in sexual openness

Can’t blame men for all that girls.....I blame feminism frankly

Women are sexually open, just like men? Stupid feminism, getting rid of guilt and repression!

snooter55 has some issues...

And then sometimes things go “south” - reeeeeeeal fast ...... the bitch even murdered my child before she decided to check out that green grass on the other side -o - da - fence. She soon found that she was missing nothing on the other side, well, except perhaps that true, passionate, unconditional love(er) that she had known aaaallll along. Muddling through life with a broken heart ( on several levels ) is no party. It shows on her face too.( Angelic perfection to OMG !! )

Just for the record, I do ask for forgiveness when I smirk from time to time, at the third rate life she finally settled for and God approved. It’s sad that we men are labeled the “pigs” all the time.

editor-surveyor can be counted on for the crazy church-lady position.

Do you co-habitate with pagans?