Monday, March 23, 2015

Cruzapalooza

So Ted Cruz skipped the usual exploratory fundraising and went straight to the 'I'm running for President' bit.

Should be interesting. At the moment, I'm not too worried about a candidate who isn't bothering to gather a large war chest, and who wants to end the IRS.

Maybe it's that this was expected, or that Freepers are too busy raging at the GOP with the election still so far away, but Freepers reaction was somewhat more muted than I expected. Oh, there are lots of threads with lots of posts, but not much enthusiasm compared to previous stunts.

Still, even a listless Freeper is a pretty crazy dude. Here's what we got on the JimRob started thread.

CivilWarBrewing knows what's important:
NO teleprompter.. Very impressive.
manc also keeps his eyes on the crap no one who isn't a Freeper cares about:
What a great speech and yet not one teleprompter for him.

I can see why the Dems are afraid of him. He is smart, relates with his background, done well for himself and can articulate his views.
Windflier is only slightly less trivial:
Love Ted’s symbol/logo. It looks like an American flag in the shape of a flame, which very much communicates to me in these perilous times.

I think it represents many things about us and our country - the eternal flame of our founding principles, the torch of liberty being carried forward by each generation, the fire of longing within our hearts for the restoration of this magnificent land.

Brilliant positioning.
C. Edmund Wright is already very confident:
His speaking style is very inspiring! I hope he catches fire quickly and his poll numbers jump up from lagging to leading.

You will get your wish.
lexington minuteman 1775 makes a show of grudgingly giving Cruz his respect:
It’s been a while since we had a Christian who is proud of his relationship to Jesus and publically proclaims it.
I am impressed and I don’t impress easily.
eartick is still remembering when he got to vote for Reagan:
May be the THIRD best vote I ever cast in my life when I vote for him in the Primary and then FOURTH for President of these United States.

Wahooooooo
gleeaikin tries to engage with what Cruz has actually said. It does not end well.
I’m not sure Reagan ever IMAGINED a country with no IRS, or else how would he have paid his large military bills which buried the Soviet union finally. So maybe we can imagine an IRS under a new name The Fund for International and Border Security, and Killing Ebola if it gets in.
American Constitutionalist - if Cruz plays his cards right, he'll get Hispanic conservatives, AND conservatives!
He will definently get the tradition conservative Hispanic vote.

His words he chooses and the inspiring style he sounded like Ronald Reagan.

If he sticks to conservative issues he will bring out the conservative vote.

Say no to milk toast Jebs, or Paul Ryan, Paul Ryan reminds me of Martin O’Malley to much.
Like many Freepers these days, sorrisi is getting emotional:
I literally cried this morning watching his announcement. I haven’t heard such uplifting principles in so long. I hope the young people understand the importance of liberty. So far he is the only one who has never broken my heart.
FrdmLvr wants to keep things in the lowest possible partisan sewer:
Only thing missing from that speech was: “Imagine a First Lady who knows how to dress appropriately and attractively!”
Does anyone else catch a whiff of a threat in onyx's enthusiasm?
P.S. Here's the News: SUPPORT SENATOR TED CRUZ!!!

24 comments:

  1. Well, since Onyx has thrown Sarah Palin over for Rafael Cruz, I guess Snowbilly Snookie is officially done.

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  2. I think that even in their silly angry shrivelled hearts, Freepers know that Sarah is yesterday's news. They'll hold out a shred of hope for her glorious return until they die, of course.

    That said, oh how I look forward to Cruz's glorious run and even more glorious fall. Freepers are completely all-in on him (they'd be willing to switch to Walker, but he doesn't inspire the FREEP LOVE at nearly the same level), and their reactions when he either 1) sticks to courting the freep-vote only and never gets beyond 20% or so; or 2) inevitably moves to the middle during the actual campaign should be something to see.

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  3. Cruz is obviously not a serious contender, not a viable candidate. Anyone want to bet he is going to be the next President of the United States? Anybody?

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  4. With all the freepers giving there money to Ted Cruz now , how ever will Jim close put the freeperthons?

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  5. I see a lot of excitement up through the Iowa caucus ... then a rather rapid decline/burnout.

    And it is not even going to be the fault of Ted himself.
    So many nutcases of the right are going to crow about all the Christian Dominionist things they THINK Ted is going to do as president, they will instill quite a bit of fear in the electorate.

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  6. After the 2012 election, I read a thread where Freeper sirchtruth was arguing that the reason Romney lost was because he was a RINO and conservatives stayed home. I want Ted Cruz to be the nominee so that when he loses, we can shut down that whole line of thinking from him and other Freepers. It ought to be entertaining at least.

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  7. In previous years, the GOP candidates would announce, peak and then flame out. Ted flamed out months ago. He's polling in single digits in non-CPAC non-Freep polls. He's DOA. It would have been fun to watch him drag the rest of the GOP field into the wilderness of the fringe right.

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    1. "... in single digits in non-CPAC non-Freep polls. ..."

      That is the heart of the matter.
      Ted Cruz, like Ben Carson, started believing their own press too much, surrounding themselves with yes men.

      They go on these little internet "radio" programs where they basically get their asses kissed for an hour, and they really start to believe they have popular support.

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  8. Yeah, 538 has a nice article up as to why Cruz is only slightly less likely to get killed by a passing meteor than he is to ever sit in the big chair.

    This burnout should be fun to watch.

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  9. Hey Ozy,
    Please do a post on newtoidaho. He is full on stormfronter mode

    http://freerepublic.com/tag/by:newtoidaho/index?brevity=full;tab=comments

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    1. "They can go from relatively docile porch monkeys, to a charging gang of pavement apes, to an all out chimpout in a surprisingly short amount of time."

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    2. I have another racist in mind for this Friday, but he's totally on the list.

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  10. I wasn't clever enough to come up with this, but there are comparisons between the Cruz logo, 1) an upside-down American flag on fire, and 2) the Al-Jazeera logo. Oh Freeper stealth agents, please someone post this on FR!

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  11. The guy who worked with Romney again...

    I've worked in campaigns half my life, some 19 years now- longer than Cruz has been involved in politics. There's a reason why I started working on Romney's campaign in early 2011...because he could win!

    You see, most Republicans are what FReepers consider RINOs. They're found in middle and upper-middle areas of large population centers and they're not what they would consider conservative. The average Republican is a split party voter. They vote both Democrat and Republican on even year elections and, when they vote in primaries, they vote for the most moderate of the group.

    Now the problem with Cruz. Besides the fact that one could argue he's actually Canadian, he's got some serious issues. For one thing, Cruz is pro-life and so against abortion that he doesn't feel abortion should be legal in cases of rape or molestation. If I were a Democrat (or a mod-Repub during the primary) countering this view, I'd have some SERIOUS ammunition. One-third of Republicans are pro-choice and a large percentage of the remaining 2/3rd are in favor of abortion in cases where rape or molestation has occurred. The guy will have a problem here.

    He's against the legalization of marijuana...there go all the Ron Paul Republicans.

    I could go on, but I have work to do.

    I think Democrats should be excited to go against Cruz. Sure the guy is better than, let's say, Sarah Palin, Herman Cain or Michelle Bachmann, but the guy is unelectable for high office.

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    1. Oh, I'll add this while I'm thinking about it:

      Cruz's stance against same-sex marriage. Some 40% of Republicans (again, RINOS, I know) support same-sex marriages with 20% being "strongly supportive."

      In the first few, the primaries work on margins. Typically the more early victories result in larger sums of contributions. With regard to same-sex marriages, there's 20% right there that he'll be having to work against!

      See, the more "cosmopolitan" Republicans number greater than those in the rural areas with strong conservative beliefs. They also have greater amounts of cash to work with which result in better endorsements.

      Cruz is a polarizing figure not unlike Newt Gingrich or Rick Santorum. He's going to have an uphill battle even in the primary.

      Don't be surprised to see Jeb Bush there. You've noticed him walking back more of his conservative views lately, haven't you? Wonder why???

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    2. The 538 article another anon (or maybe you?) posted says pretty much everything you say, and more:

      Ted Cruz too extreme and too disliked to win

      I would actually like to see Ted Cruz get the nomination just to shut these guys up who say Republicans need an extreme conservative to win. 2016 would be a perfect year to do it, too. Hillary Clinton seems like she's probably going to win no matter who runs against her (barring unforeseen circumstances), so why not lose big and smack these guys down good and hard? Then when you run a more moderate candidate in 2020 and beyond, they'll be more subdued and willing to moderate themselves.

      Anyway, that's my idea. I don't know if it's good or bad, just trying to get rid of all this bad craziness.

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    3. They would just cry "voter fraud" or some nonsense

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    4. I think "voter fraud" is just something they console themselves with immediately after losing an election. I think after a while, they would accept that Cruz lost legitimately. Especially if Hillary were to get over 400 electoral votes.

      But maybe I'm giving Freepers too much credit.

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    5. "major voting fraud" casued by all them illegals brought in through Obama's amnesty!

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  12. "Say no to milk toast Jebs, or Paul Ryan, Paul Ryan reminds me of Martin O’Malley to much."

    Mmmm...milk toast.

    Or does he mean milquetoast?

    That's not as good.

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  13. The best analysis I saw about Cruz was that yesterday he announced his run for Vice President.

    If the nominee (Jeb Bush) is seen as too un-conservative I could see him picking a younger, more right wing VP. That said, I think Ted is waaaay too far to the right to be elected anywhere but a red state.

    As for his natural born citizenship, with an American mother, he could have been born on Mars with Adolph Hitler as his father and still be Natural Born, non issue.

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  14. Uh oh!

    "Mr. Cruz has done nothing to endear himself to the elites. He won the party’s nomination for the Senate by defeating David Dewhurst, an establishment favorite and the sitting lieutenant governor of Texas. He led congressional Republicans to shut down the government to prevent the inevitable enactment of the Affordable Care Act."

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/24/upshot/why-ted-cruz-is-such-a-long-shot.html?em_pos=small&emc=edit_up_20150324&nl=upshot&nlid=63621055&ref=headline&_r=0&abt=0002&abg=0

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    1. “I believe we should follow the text of every law, even [a] law I disagree with,” Cruz said.

      Oh please oh please oh please let some Freeper ask him about Roe v. Wade.

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