Thursday, May 14, 2015

Boycotting Arabs Muslims.

Via ay-nony-nony.

A Freeper named Din Maker takes Freeper's broad-brush hatred of all Muslims to it's logical conclusion - why aren't Freepers out protesting and boycotting all Muslims, instead of just complaining about them?

Hilariously, he calls them Arabs, thus making it an issue or pure racism, rather than just prejudice and bigotry.

Mostly, it's re_nortex flying amazingly close to the sun and not getting burned, and Din Maker maybe being pathetically serious.

MeshugeMikey tells a story:
Back in the fall of 2001....I stopped frequenting a small local market owned by an Iranian.

He had told me that America Had it Coming....re the attacks on the 11th of September.
re_nortex one-ups him with an amazing tale of bigotry:
I've run completely out of what little tolerance I may have in the reservoir for islam and its satanic adherents. As a case in point, an otherwise outgoing and quite pleasant fellow who owns a convenience store that I frequent and I developed a relatively friendly relationship over the past several years. I always thought he was of Indian decent judging by his accent and complexion.

Just a couple of days when were amicably chatting about our milder than usual weather and the Dallas Cowboys defensive squad's woes, I finally asked about his background. He revealed that he was from Pakistan but lived here in Texas for the past thirty years.

I then bluntly asked if he was a mooselimb. When he replied affirmatively, I literally threw my money for the purchase at him and loudly proclaimed that I would never come to his store again. There's no doubt in my mind that he was practicing taqiyya all of those years. I have no use for him or any other member of that pernicious death cult.

I want them gone! All of them! Every single muzzie! No exceptions! Period.
Is doc1019 aware his revenge sounds super gay?
Considering that Obama wants this country to be overrun by ragheads and his desire is for the US to be under Sharia... Obama is going to do little to stop this and that is his job.

As for boycotting Arab owned business ... what business?

As for your last statement ... I see them all the time (the females in their tents (I guess what I’m seeing are female)) in our local mall accompanied my a male.

My general response is to giggle and look the male directly in the eye while doing do.
re_nortex then one-ups himself:
When I'm in the mall and I see a muzzie couple, I make a point to stand right in their way and block them. I look them right in the eye and hiss, "Get out of my country!" in my best Clint Eastwood voice. While I don't threaten them with physical harm, they get the message that they're not wanted here. Rude? Yes. In your face? Absolutely! I'm just one guy but I can imagine the positive impact this would have if it became widespread.
Din Maker on the Arab-Muslim distinction:
Not all Arabs are Muslims.

The illegal Mexicans who are here are not Muslim either. How do you feel about them?
The Toll contemplates arson:
Last week while meeting a friend for dinner I looked to my right while stopped at a red light, there I saw it, The Hijab Store. That was the name. It was empty and closed at the time. I’ve never set fire to anything, but it took all my will this time. All of it.
Din Maker is seeing Arabs everywhere!
Are you telling me that within 20 miles of any direction from your house there are no raghead owned businesses? Come on dude...... You must live in a very rural area where it is 20 miles to the closest, Muslim-owned Gas Station/Convenience Store? As far as your Pakistani, Christian, American doctor, you asked a dumb a** question that to which you already know the answer. Of course not. Now, please don’t waste my time with crap like this. Methinks you’re a little offended over me Posting this thread.
9422WMR tries to invent a new slur:
Look at the doctors at your hospitals and medical offices. I’ll bet a large number of them are sandies...
Din Maker seems really intent on making it pure racism:
Some Arabs are Christian.

So they say. Ask them where they go to church and who is their Pastor. Granted I should have said boycott Muslim businesses, not Arab businesses.
caww, as usual, has heard a thing on the Internet that he will now pass on as truth:
Some Churches are telling Arab Christians they can continue to worship in their Mosques even if their Christians. This is part of the merging of faiths........even though they will not make it known they converted....dangerous ground the Christian churches are treading on today.

Wednesday, May 13, 2015

Santorum

In 2012, Santorum was briefly the Freeper anti-Romney hope. But now he's basically in Romney's camp as an impure agent of liberalism.

I'm not sure why, other than that he lost once before.

Of course, I'm also not sure why he thinks running would get him anything useful.

Here, Freepers rage when Santorum goes all "love the sinner, hate the sin" on Bruce Jenner.

ClearCase_guy has an od definition of crime against humanity:
In 2012, I liked Santorum better than many of the others.

But this is stupid. It's NOT a tough issue. Transgenders are mentally ill people who think paying someone to mutilate them will make them happy. And, statistically, this almost never is the outcome.

Got a Y chromosome? Then you're a man. End of story. Trying to change that is a crime.

It's a crime against the self. A crime against humanity. A crime against God. If you're on the wrong side on this one, there is no way I can say a kind word in your favor. Sorry, Santorum.
Flag_This - cowardice is disagreeing with Freepers"
He's a mutilated man with mental health issues and Santorum is a moral coward.
I can't get over Mr Rogers name, and his angry, angry posts:
“My responsibility as a human being is to love and accept everybody. Not to criticize people for who they are. I can criticize, and I do, for what people do, for their behavior. But as far as for who they are, you have to respect everybody,” Santorum said.

So....if someone says they want to have sex with their dog, but don’t because they are afraid of being caught...do we have to respect them? DO we have to accept pedophiles and those who want to have sex with dead people? Heck, do we have to “accept” anyone who wants to discuss their sex life?

When I was in the military, I told folks that “Don’t ask, don’t tell” applied to everyone on duty - that we had a job to do, and discussing our sex lives wasn’t part of it. Why do I have to accept ANYONE who wants to talk about their sex life on TV?
grania remembers when Santorum allowed for compromise:
Last time around, Santorum was gaining momentum and seemed like the best conservative choice. Then he started talking about the need to compromise. End of story.
trisham hated Santorum before it was cool.
I’ve never been a fan, and I’m not surprised.
highball - no one panders like people who say they would outlaw contraceptives!
So ok’ Rick finally pandered to the wrong group.

Good. We need to know that he’s not serious.
WhistlingPastTheGraveyard also with the cowardice:
He’s selling his soul for something he never will and never could have. He’s selling his soul for nothing.

Beyond stupid. It’s pure cowardice.
Long ago, livius sensed the liberalism in Santorum's soul:
I have never liked Santorum, whom I have always considered to be a combination of smarmy and ruthlessly ambitious...but not for any particularly good reason. That is, there isn’t any project he has in mind, he simply wants to get to the top of the heap (without a lot of accomplishments, ala Obama).
faithhopecharity's GOP is very small end exclusive:
Santorum sounds like he is prepping to run as a Dem....
(perhaps he sees the crowded R primary race and the wide-open D primary?)
jjotto wonders if there's a secret agenda:
are these guys conservative candidates with ego problems, or are they RINO stooges pretending to be conservatives?

Sitcoms these days

A Freeper finds Fresh Off the Boat's racial humor to be offensive to whites. Freepers therefore discuss how TV these days reinforces America's oppression of whites.

Blue Jays ignores the whole Asian angle to concentrate on a single line from a black:
Gee, sounds like a wonderful and uplifting television show. BARF!
Thankfully the wise black youth was able to provide sage advice.

I note the same thing on commercials, too.
A bumbling and helpless white guy is typically "saved" by his wife and/or clever black neighbor.
spodefly sees just another sign of the coming Civil War.
More propaganda and programming for those who hate whites but want to take over in countries built by whites ... tick tock tick tock ...
Red Badger finds the stereotypes offensive, for once.
Stereotypes are abundant throughout the script and it wasn’t very funny.
I’m of Asian ancestry and I thought it was terrible.
The only worse ‘Asian’ centric show was that fat Korean lesbo show they tried a few years ago. It was so bad I couldn’t watch it through the premier episode....................
11th_VA finds something he likes more than than outrage.
The Mom is one hot little won ton

OK - that's why I didn't turn the channel :)
BenLurkin is ignored:
It’s a funny show. Lighten up sir.
A Formerly Proud Canadian finds offense in the name:
The two biggest street gangs in Calgary are, you guessed to, ‘Fresh Off the Boat’ gang and ‘Fresh Off the Boat Killers’. FOB was originally made of only Vietnamese juvenile reprobates selling drugs, sex and extortion, all at Forest Lawn High School in the 1990s. A dispute arose, some broke off, creating FOBK and starting a war. Now, both gangs are multi-ethnic, but try to kill each other on sight. They have spread across the city and Province. Lefties likely don’t like all the crime, but they must be happy that they ‘integrated’ successfully! I would bet that HA supplies both gangs.

Not especially happy with the name of this ‘show’.
VideoDoctor - liberals and gays and gay-liberals.
Liberals and gays. and Gay-Liberals create these shows and act in many of them.

Quite often the storyline and content reflect that SHALLOW POV that these dim-bulbs constantly try to peddle.
TexasCajun watches only his approved sitcoms:
The only sitcoms I watch these days are Tim Allen’s ‘Last Man Standing’ and ‘The Big Bang Theory’.
Last Man Standing is a sitcom devoted to conservative and men's rights BS, but Big Bang Theory?

TexasCajun explains:
I hate Penny's pixie cut, but the skimpier the outfits the less I care. hehe

I think she may be the only Republican on the cast?
Whew. Wouldn't want to enjoy a show that didn't have at least one Republican in the cast!

Tuesday, May 12, 2015

And Now This Word from Outer Space

Running for President as the world ends edition:
Any Democrat with half a brain can see that the S will HTF sometime in the next five years, whether it be in foreign affairs--any one of about 40 conflicts throughout the world, from the Mideast to Africa to South Asia to East Asia--or the pain that will be necessary to institute eventual economic recovery, similar to what we experienced in the early 1980s. All it will take for Democrats to take the Presidency in 2020 is a GOP administration unable to handle the SHtingTF--and that shouldn't be too hard to ensure, they think, all they have to do is first get a DemLite a la Jeb in the WH if they can, and if they can't, obstruct and obfuscate for four years, and not make the mistake they did 36 years earlier by letting Cruz be Cruz or Walker be Walker, the way their forebears let Reagan be Reagan.

Only a truly narcissistic Democrat would want to be "Obama's third term," and the only two truly narcissistic Democrats are Obama, who isn't running, and Hillary!, who is. (Even Warren, who desperately wants to be President while saying she doesn't, a la Toranaga-sama in Shōgun, isn't stupid enough to run in 2016, unless she can create the illusion of being drafted to take the point for the sake of the unit.)
Merely running for President makes you crazy (if you're a Dem) brought to you by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)

The inevitable Garland trutherism

Some conservative blog posts that the FBI knew there was going to be a shooting at Pam Gellar's anti-Muslim thing.

The reality is much more boring. But Freepers are already declaring this Obama's latest dastardly plot. Really, though it seems more like they're showing how down with the Freep they are by trying to out-crazy each other.

jimbo123 knows it's clear:
It’s clear Valerie Jarrett gave the FBI a “stand down” order.
43north - everyone is against us!
All of fedzilla’s LE agencies have been co-opted by the evil that emanates from the obama regime and they are more interested in persecuting American citizens than protecting them.
Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America reveals that even the Republicans are in on it:
It’s time for Issa or Gowdy to investigate so they can help 0dumbo cover it up and delay the hearings at least two years.
JLAGRAYFOX doesn't even bother to thing up a plot:
Obama at work trying to destroy America and Americans!!!
Reno89519 doesn't get how thousands of people can be as evil as he's decided they must be:
Is there not one competent political appointee in the Obama administration or appointed or promoted into positions by them?!
Jewbacca brings in the antisemitism angle:
Geller’s Jewish. Not worthy of protection by Obama.
kagnew is also a fan of the victimhood narrative:
That’s right, Jews and Christians are not worthy of any protection by Obama. Just ask the families of the four Americans held in Iranian prisons at this time, not to mention Sgt. Tahmooressi an active duty Marine who made the wrong turn and ended up in Mexico.
cherokee1 just takes this time to incoherently bag on Muslms:
Giving a muzzie a flush terlet actually cleans him up a little. What’s wrong with maybe just a slit trench? Make him feel right at home. Next to a basket of corn cobs?
okie01 just adds this to his list of local-level conspiracies by the Feds:
I have it on good authority that the order to arrest Richard Jewell or the 1996 Olympic bombing came directly from the White House...and Bill Clinton himself.

When politics intrudes on law enforcement, no good can come of it. See the Murrah Building, TWA 800, Centennial Park, Sandy Hook, Trayvon Martin, Ferguson, Baltimore, etc.

Hmmm, do I detect a partisan political pattern there...???
Cementjungle explains Obama's plan:
The Obama admin probably figured that if a hundred people got massacred that it would help start a “national conversation” about “hate speech” and the need for legislation curbing “offensive speech”.
sport just casually assumes the FBI sent the shooters:
Of course the FBI knew. In fact, they probably sent them or strongly encouraged them to go.
Norm Lenhart knows the FBI bugged everyone's car:
What pisses me off is they didn’t bother to tell Garland police, let them do all the work, and then the FBI came in at a late hour and took over. The took affidavits from all of us and got our personal info, and didn’t release our cars until the next day.

Trade that car ASAP. As a potential domestic terrorist for having attended a hate rally, your vehicle is now well and truly bugged.

Think I’m kidding?

Monday, May 11, 2015

Monday Potpourri pt. II

King Moonracer is trying for some good slurs:
“faggies” or better yet, “poop thugs”.
Oh, I hope chris37's over the top sexism is what the right goes with:
Her voters are vaginas.

Vaginas are not known for their critical thinking skills.

Not surprising.
I hope newfreep's conspiracy goes mainstream:
Huma is a lifelong member of MuzzieBro/al-queda and HELLry’s long time real wife. It’s easy to imagine the treason of those two evil doers.
PTBAA knows Obama's behind the Tom Brady deflategate:
Tom’s been “Menendezed” for “dissing” our would-be Emperor (not showing up at the White House Superbowl photo-op).
CincyRichieRich will only focus on important issues, like Pam Gellar:
Well, not being a smart alec, but Pam Geller, 0bama destroying the country, doing homeland takeover military ops, and that stuff, I’m gonna stay focused on. When we are distracted they usually do more damage.
Vigilanteman knows Texas is going to be awesome...any day now:
Oil prices are moving back up and so will the Texas economy. It is natural that you will create a lot of layoffs when you've been number one in the nation for so many years in creating new jobs.

The other metric is that I would guess that not many Texans are leaving the workforce permanently either.

The common thing to do in ObaMao's America, especially if you are fifty plus is to exhaust all 99 weeks of unemployment benefits and then discover a disability which will replace it with disability income by the time the 8.25 years of unemployment is exhausted. People who have hope of finding new employment in places like Texas won't do that.
But would yarddog want to be black?
Blacks are being treated as if they are Gods, just about perfect in every way.

They are being over represented on all types of media and not by a little bit. They are given priority in every way over Whites.
Steamburg laments that the gays have all the money:
Monetizing the sodomite industry. The politicians can get LBGT & other alphabet contributions by supporting the teaching of perversion in public school and get more funding by appearing to ban people from straightening out the kids they have groomed.
mrsmith loves his fallacies:
All conservatives voted against cloture. (I haven’t checked the vote, but anyone who didn’t vote against cloture is no conservative.)
PoloSec shows how you can know as many wrong things as Freepers do:
Every day I check Drudge right after the weather same routine for many years now, I don’t ever click links I just read through the headlines, and then spend the rest of my time on FR to get the rest of the story.
jsanders2001 is not happy with how diverse the Scotland Independence Party is:
This is SCOTLAND...yet the leadership seen in this photo is composed of 1 straight atheist female, 1 lesbian female, 2 Pakistani Muslims and 1 Hindu. William Wallace is long gone. Scotland is so done.

I have family over there. They’ve told me the Muzzie infiltration over there is pretty extreme and thatbthey’re ruining the country...
stevie_d_64 thinks the solution to police shooting black kids is more casseroles:
I make a couple of casseroles for Thanksgiving, and Christmas when I know some of them are not going to get those days off...One for the local constable office, and one for the local FD around the corner...

Not doing that to expect any special treatment of consideration...

I wonder how many in the black community (i.e.: Baltimore or Ferguson) ever do things like that for their local first responders???

I would bet on zero...

So you get what you pay for...Zero tolerance, and above normal scrutiny for hoodrats in general...
Flick Lives doesn't bother to learn issues, he just votes out of spite:
BBC’s talking head pinkos are down in the mouth this morning.

That's a good enough barometer for me. Same method I use to pick who to vote for in the U.S. The more the MSM hates the person the more I can figure this is the person who will bust up the elites and their cozy fascist arrangements.
bert is still a fascist:
The AP has outlived it’s usefullness and must be abolished as an American enemy propaganda outlet. Those that write for the rag must be rounded up.
As Hillary continues to poll well, txrefugee has learned noting from previous unskewings:
When the pollsters poll 10% more brain-dead Democrats than Republicans, no wonder she has been “unaffected.”
GodAndCountryFirst is unskewing the employment numbers now:
TOTAL BS. The economy continues to LOSE jobs, not add them. These numbers are entirely made up.
AdaGray wants white people to save us:
WASPs could save country again. We should be so lucky.
Bubba_Leroy isn't wrong...
Sticking your reproductive organ up someone else’s butt is behavior.
ExCTCitizen loves Ted Cruz and his magic powers:
ISIS = the Democrats war on women. Those bunch of camel humping subhumans will be dead if President Cruz was in office now instead of getting into office in 2017.
sport can only illustrate the hell he lives in one way:
They omitted their trained troops at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. the occupier is the people’s choice, not mine. I have become a minority in my Country.
Taxman uses Freepers' craziness about Obama as proof Obama's the crazy one:
I don’t recall EVER hearing any conversations about martial law when “W” was in the White House!
Morpheus2009 doesn't get how love and lust aren't the same thing:
Wait, so if he’s bisexual, how is he married?
Chgogal is sure Islam is killing us all RIGHT NOW:
tell me when we stop kissing Islam's arse? After they rape your daughter, like they are raping Sweden's daughters? Let our throats get sliced like van Gogh’s great grand nephew? When are you the rest of your fellow elitist pussies going to take a stand? Van Gogh was murdered in broad day light on the streets of Amsterdam in 2004 for making and distributing a 10 minute movie. You and the rest of Western Civilization do not deserve the freedom our ancestors fought and died for.
mrsmel wonders if all the non-Freepers are secretly liberals:
Is it too fruit-loopy to consider that some of these RINOs may be sleeper cell type infiltrators, who now feel safe to come out into the open? The left has found that to be a very successful tactic with other entities, including, as of not-so-recently, the military and the nominal Christian church, which up until not-so-recently were considered bastions of conservatism, and the opponents of the left. We’ve seen that they took over academia and the MSM that way, long ago. They couldn’t defeat th military as a staunchly conservative organisation in a full-frontal assault, so they infiltrated with first women (who are more likely to be leftist), then sodomites. They usurped the Christian brand name, and they’re in the process of doing the same with the “evangelical”label.
Ahh, mixing up progress with infiltration.

ßuddaßudd has a creepy idea:
islamicfinder dot org
know your neighbors . .
American in Israel writes in his most dramatic voice:
So the Change the Muslim Presidet brought was... EVIL instead of Justice.
SmokingJoe
It is Obama who hates America and has no business being in the White House. It’s perfectly fine for anyone who actually loves American to hate the Kenyan communist, given that the Kenyan communist hates America.

Monday Potpourri pt. I

BenLurkin has a cunning plan:
Dear GOP — do NOT have debates

DO NOT have debates.
Yet again, a Jacquerie explains why all Muslims must be killed:
This is war.

Islam long ago declared war on the US.

Every mosque is an enemy camp.

Every muzzie is an enemy soldier.
wally_bert still hates Bill Clinton:
He’s looking more and more like an old man .... or should I say a dirty old man.

He can’t die soon enough for me.
lonestar67 gins up some hypocrisy by comparing attitudes liberals had decades ago with paranoia conservatives have now:
When US troops deploy outside our borders, they are baby killers, kill women and children, massacre civilians on and on.

When US troops detain or hold order outside our borders they engage in torture and inhumane cruelty to pretty much all they encounter.

But when the Fed government orders a deployment of special forces to Texas, then there is absolutely no reason to suspect anything.

It highlights how the only true evil the Left believes in is the American conservative.
re: Iran' nukes, VerySadAmerican is right, he's been saying "any day now" for decades:
Bibi just keeps giving plenty of warning.
Everything's easy in Yardstick's simple world:
Can we not just carpet bomb these a-holes already?

I want to see the world agree that it’s time to vaporize ISIS.
hehe, Flavious_Maximus hates the Pope:
The Vatican wanted a leftist Marxist priest. They got their wish but they also got themselves a heretic. One has to wonder if this is what they secretly wanted as well.

He is the worst Pope ever.
A baby shower sign in a poor neighborhood sets Gaffer off on a racist rant:
Yesterday morning I went to mail a letter. My route through my small town passes directly by one of the three public housing complexes here still left over from LBJ’s Great Society debacle.

As I passed by, I saw a placard posted on a telephone pole at the entrance that said “Katy’s Baby Shower” with an arrow pointing inward to the project.

The thing about these projects is you don’t see any of them occupied by husbands and wifes. Only baby mammas. To be sure, there’s often some baby daddy living there, but he ain’t got rang on that finger, nor she.

So Katy is gonna drop another one at the only hospital here. We citizens are gonna pick up the tab, and Katy gonna requalify for WICS, SNAP, more EITC because of the dependent (new baby), more housing (free) and all that other stuff for another 5 years or so.

Katy don’t want no inconvenience, though. She’s having a baby shower!
mojito heard Obama say something I did not hear:
It's cop-hunting season.

Our president said it was ok.

Because Baltimore.

And Ferguson.

And white Hispanics.
don-o is pissed FOX interviewed a negro:
Fox interviewing a hood rat. Setting the narrative. Shameful.
pfflier has the best simile ever:
And the race baiters will propose that black suspects should get a pass rather than be subject to standard police procedures. Its the new ghetto sharia law.
Dr. Thorne on black people problems:
“Hands up; don’t shoot; I can’t breathe; I have a broken neck; I don’t know who my father is; I’ve never held a job; Wanna buy some weed?”
shalom aleichem is keeping his old nemesis, even if no one else cares:
Rove has openly said that “they” (The GOPe) will weed out the conservatives from the debates.

Bring it on Turdblossom!
TexasRepublic only trusts blacks wearing suits:
That minority, the black vandals, have soured inter-racial relations for the rest of us for at least two generations.

I was nearly mugged by a black man two days ago in broad daylight on a public street in the Houston medical center. Perhaps he had been whipped up by all the hostility bubbling up in other places.

The point is, I cannot really trust any young black stranger on the street unless he looks pretty damned respectable (like wearing a suit and tie, and yes, that is called profiling). Now, that’s a shame. I didn’t start the troubles, but that is the consequence of it. Some of my dearest friends are black, but they are not riff-raff.
AEMILIUS PAULUS already has a Spotlight, otherwise this paranoid bigotry would get him one:
The left continues to consolidate its power. Soon our judiciary will be composed solely of Third World creatures and sodomites. We are in the midst of a Revolution wherein those people who organized and governed our nation from the beginning to 2008 are being over thrown and replaced with those who do not even belong to our society.
Rodamala makes racist jokes:
I tend to keep the two races distinct... One “Indian” smells like curry powder. The other “Indian” is a drunken bloodthirsty savage that scalps the men and rapes the women.
Bigg Red knows the cure for the failures of abstinence only education is more abstinence only education:
The high school has three days of sex education in the fall semester for students, with the curriculum including abstinence.

***

Perhaps they need a curriculum that emphasizes abstinence and is taught to them by their parents. Suspect the tramps in the school have not gotten too much instruction from their parents in how to behave like a lady.
NorthMountain does not know history:
The Mexican Revolution, the French Revolution, the Russian Revolution, Chinese Revolution, the Khmer Rouge, the Viet Cong all displayed the same leftist view of Christianity.
Impy turns scattered anecdotal idiocy into a universal evil:
This pig ***ker Adam Swift is actually a Brit. Philosophy professor. It’s not an exaggeration to say that leftist academics are enemies of the human race.
roadcat makes things up to yell about when the USS Enterprise is decommissioned:
I'm surprised that Obama didn't sell her to the Chinese to save the bucks. (That's his mindset.)
george76 is sure holidays are a conspiracy:
Karl Marx was born May 5th.

This Cinco thing is not a Mexican holiday. Rather a celebration of Karl Marx.

BTW: the lefties also celebrate Mass Murderer Lenin’s birthday with the same clever game. Nothing about the earth.
txhurl totally hears Texans talking about killing Muslims:
Men all over Texas are talking about Garland at the gas pumps. I hear them. There are plans cooking to neutralize threats and I personally recommend everybody get the drum-mag for their A/Rs, that’s what the jizlamos brought, as a class protected by MenSeekingMen and zero.